10,000 would be nothing. In the 96 and 97 protests against Milosevic, Serbs got 200,000 and 300,000 out on the streets in Belgrade out of a population of 7 million. More protested in the regional cities and it still wasn't enough to dislodge him at the time. It took 300,000 again in 2000 to finally get him out; by that stage his police and security forces could see that the game was up. As others have posted already on the thread, for whatever reason, Russian citizens don't seem to have the ability/desire/motivation/whatever that other countries have. It is probably more similar to North Korea than China/Iran.
China needs a strong West, to sell to.
Without functioning export markets China is fcuked.
Of course,they need a massively weak West to try show how they are the Top Dog now ,
But can they fight, we've seen how Russia has done, from Afghanistan, Chechnya,and now ukraine,
China knows which side its bread is buttered (hint: look at their export statistics)
China won't send troops in but they will send weapons.
They also like the idea of the west running down its reserves.
Meanwhile in Moldova
It's not going how the Chinese expected at all ,I'm sure they were hoping for a quick Russian victory followed by access to the black sea ports , followed by a quick jaunt across the water for the Chinese to Taiwan, instead they have watched the Russians fail at every turn and the wests military rapidly rearming and rebuilding, along with the Koreans and japanese military industry picking up pace for production of tanks, weapons and aircraft,
Chinese weapons won't change the outcome of this war ,if China gets involved we could see Europen States saying we going in too ,
Whole lot of wishful thinking in here.
The reality is the Chinese are gonna prop Vlad up til he wins or he dies. They don't want a failed nuclear armed state on their border.
If Putin goes, it all gets a lot harder to manage.
Well believe it ,but someone else mentions the number of Russian police officers,that's for the whole of Russia,but look at the population of Moscow alone is 12 million people,it's not as if the people don't have the numbers,if the people wanted they can make a difference,
But won't
Can only hope theres a western intel group having quiet chats with a potential replacement.
Surely there are prefered replacements picked out by now, even if it is just files on a desk.
China probably have their man picked out by now, paid off and ready.
Could it be China that invite Vlad for tea and a look at Xis new basement?
Oh hey Vrad, cmon down stairs, check out my new mancave.
Who knows we could have faction loyal to Putin, Wagner group. It also could be it all end peaceful call me pessimistic
I think that if 10'000 take to the streets of Moscow, Putin will first try ordinary methods of crowd control, if it's more, and it gets out of control, he will call in the military and order then to open fire. And yes, he 's capable of doing it, I believe.
A civil war between which power blocs?
I sure hope you be right as the other outcome is a power vacuum with forces taking control with a bloody civil war and other former soviet states been drawn into it
He probably died two years ago and these are his doppelgangers trained for the last ten years mooching about. 🤣
He'll be like a vampire and never die. With a conveyer of doppelgangers coming out of the kremlin plastic surgery clinic.😎
I would be interested to know how many profiles listed on page one's merit list stopped posting on boards immediately when thread banned also.
My guess is that with Putin, he would see it as a case of them or me, and call out the army to clear the streets of protesters, let it be 10 or 100'000 people. He would go on TV and claim the foreign backed terrorists have attacked Moscow, and call all true Russians out to defend the state. After that, it would be make your mind up time for the military, which way would the swing. If they supported Vladimir, then it would be a blood bath, followed by an even bigger bloodbath to cleanse the City of "terrorists".. If the military sided with the people, the it would be tne end of Putin. How he would leave the stage though,is another matter. Head or feet first.
20k for a glorified bouncy castle. Not bad business.
Where is Brutus when you need him????😊
Would you believe it that he has all those levels of security ejmaztec ? or not? My betting is that he has, and possibly even more levels...when you have murdered as many as Putin has, the paranoia has to kick in at some point!!! And he is sure displaying some kind of mental imbalance. As you said,no outsider will get near enough to do it, and as for someone as talented as Chris Kyle ( American Sniper) getting a shot at Putin ( aside from Vladimir permanently hiding behind bullet proof glass ) would be slim in the extreme. His closest companions are a lattice-work of his ex KGB associates, and I'm pretty sure that they will protect him, as their own and their family's lives depends on Putin remaining alive. I'm not even too sure that if Prigozhin led his merry band to the Kremlin, and assaulted Putin ( assuming that Prigozhin knew where he was..) would he succeed. I just do not know that any of the "usual" methods will work with Putin..possibly a rogue Air Force officer dropping a bomb on the Kremlin???
Too many posts to repost from 12 months ago.
But there will be no war in Ukraine, America is broke.
Oh dear......
You tell me.
Time to re-read that alright.
There's a nice video of them inflating a nice M270 MLRS decoy but no HIMARS. These decoys are a gas.
You left out LOADS of others - attempts and killed eg Ml Collins, a recent pope, Abe (Japan), was it a Norwegian PM, A Bangladeshi PM back in the70s’ - was it two of them?,
Like who?
And why does it always have to be the assumption that the next guy is worse, a theory just pulled from an arse, who knows when, and parroted since like its gospel.
An equally valid theory as one which suposses that the next guy will be an absolute teddy bear.
Im equally sure there are plenty of generals who think Vlad is a complete prick and would gladly see him dead and quickly reverse his decisions.
Being at the top of a crumbling command that you know to be full of untrustworthy gangsters and incompetents, facing massive, competent and resolute forces far more capable than yours tends to help with decision making as to whether or not to go on the offensive.
Putin is bumping off powerful people inside his regime left right and center for a reason. Even you can see that. Theres no loyalty to a regime full of corruption and gangsters, nobody in the kremlin trusts each other, and many elites want Putin dead - whether for personal financial gain or for peace.
Tldr; even if the theoretical next guy had murderous intentions somehow beyond putins, he'd still have relatively little control, as within seconds of putins corpse hitting the pavement there'd be an instant bank run of self serving corruption.
Not that hard to figure out if youd actually think about it.
Youre Putins replacement. First day on the job.
You know your hierarchy to be composed of 'thieves in law' bosses, gazprom execs and 1000 shady oligarchs.
The only thing holding the shtshow together was a fear of ol vlad. And his death is on the news.
Do you (A) double down against US and EU backed forces.
(B) Take whatever payola you can from the c.i.a guy and grab what you can before the sht really hits the fan, and go live in Florida.
Remember the names of the posters who kept coming in still no invasion today told you so .
🤦♂️🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Nice
Different ears.
In the past 24 hours I gave €100 towards thermal sights wanted in Bakhmut and another €100 towards humanitarian aid in Kherson. March, hmm, I'll start saving.
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