For once she actually speaks the truth!!
But,but ,but
My point was that you were incorrect in sharing the first source, not that you would ever admit that. As I said, I wasn't saying they were never shot down, just that the image you shared was another missile altogether and hadn't even been launched. Or did the fins undeploy themselves somehow and the missile somehow completely repair it's after making contact with the ground?
If you want to get a point across, it's probably best not to discredit yourself with an inability to admit a source you shared was wrong.
Incendiary weapon being used on Kherson.
Looks to have been abandoned. Could have been a counter offensive and was left there when they fled, crane could have broke etc... Zero evidence it was shot down.
There's been a whole heap and **** left in parts of Ukraine where Russia retreated.
The point is the Ukrainans have been shooting down Russian ballistic missiles since last year.
But ,
I didn't make the claim i just shot it down down .
All the buts in the world won't change it ,and when I'm wrong I put my hand up ,
But not today
British volunteers in Ukraine
Ah here.
Oooh, good call on the fins.
There has been numerous reports of Tochka's being shot down by manpads on both sides early last year before they appear to have run out on both sides...
Iskanders there seems to be a few unverified Ukrainian shoot downs... what seems to be more happening is they found a way to trigger their decoy/interception avoidance suite with manpads, so if targeted at the correct time, they veer off target..
So do you put your hand up and admit that the first source you shared is incorrect in the information shared or do you believe this missile was is actually an iskander, has been launched without fin deployment and was shot out of this sky while managing to maintain a pristine condition.
Even if they worked fine and went mach 9 the thing with missiles is they're easier to shoot down the faster they go. They can't maneuver at very high speeds so intercepting them head on is easier.
But according to experts on here these wonderwaffens are unstoppable,
Second link was a subsonic cruise missile. K variant. Plenty of videos of cruise missiles being downed with manpads.
Do you really believe the first pic was a downed missile, untouched, not even a blemish on it. Managed to fly even without the fins deployed? Rather than it was just abandoned and not fired for what ever reason?
Again round and round,
It's not going to change the fact the Ukrainans have been shooting down Russian ballistic missiles since last year.
Wonder what happened to the mig 31 claim
What about a tenner to comment in the thread? For old and new users. Money goes towards a charity in Ukraine.
With a whopping 500 euro donated to date.
Still remember when this was evidence of they aren't going to invade
The Mig claim? The claim you made that the US would shoot a Russian plane that came close to Kyiv? When it was pointed out to you the plane launches it's hypersonic missile from Belarus, which Ukraine can't currently defend against. You then said that the plane wouldn't even get off the ground. Implying an F22 would take it out on the runway.
Yet according to reports a Mig 31 took off from Belarus which triggered the Ukraine wide air alert (which always happened when the Mig31's take off)
oh la la...putinlovers are sad, so sad ha ha
Guess the Ladas and photoshoots in fur coats ain't enough anymore. Think there was also towel sets and bags of carrots 🤣
While the US president was there yes ,
Hyperbolic is the word not hypersonic,
There's zero evidence of a mig 31 with a cruise missile took off from Belarus and headed towards ukraine.
None .
Why
ruSSkies will tell this picture is a photoshop, never happened. Just like back then when they worked together with German Nazis, never happened, all photogrphic evidence - photoshop.
Yes it took off from Belarus while Biden was in Kyiv.
It doesn't have to head for Ukraine, soon as it takes off the air raid siren sounds all over Ukraine. Your claim was it would be taken out on the runway before it even took off.
It's fairly obvious, it's not in Russia's interest to assassinate the president even if they could, how would it help them to be in open war with the US. Biden could perform the nutcracker in a pink tutu in the middle of Moscow, they wouldn't touch him, they'd just record it for propaganda .
The Air raid siren sound on a regular basis and has done for 12 months,they don't just sound because a single mig 31 was claimed to have taken off in Belarus,
But it's only been discussed here,in a single post now two .
And yes I stand by my claim if the Americans thought it was a threat it would have been shoot down ,
That simple
Nope, I doubt very much that was the actual language used, nonetheless, that was pretty much the gist of it once the diplo-speak was translated.
I think they knew that they faced Dire consequences if they even attempted anything,
Air raid sirens sound for various reasons in Ukraine.
1. When a Mig31 takes off from Belarus (whole country alert)
2. When bombers take off around the Caspian Sea
3. When ships in the black sea launch their cruise missiles.
Air alert usually crawls across the country for 2 & 3 as they are just regular cruise missiles.
Yes air raid sirens sound for a single Mig31 taking off. Looks like this:
BBC 4 doc is s a refreshing view. Nice to hear about the Russians opposed to the invasion and the police state they're under.
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