F22s shoot down the aircraft the moment they get airborne.....
Tell us more about your wonderwaffens
Why didnt the F22s shoot down the MiG today then? It was airborne, it just didnt fire
Exactly. It's not some sort of video game or film with Tom Cruise or John Rambo. Now maybe if that twit Trump was still in power but Biden is a seasoned veteran at this level not some kid playing medal of honour.
It was smashing seeing Joe today make an absolute clown of Putin. Grade A level trolling in fairness.
who said it was airborne,at all
Ah yes Poland next
Ive seen this game before
You replied to this post earlier 🤣🤣
The article literally says it was airborne today, during Bidens visit🤣🤣
And your reply:
😂
Seems like theres alot of bluster around your wonderwaffens
Waffle ,
For some reason ,all I could think of was an orca being dropped on the roof .. 🤔
Its not my wunderwaffens, a different poster brought it up in the first place but for some reason you cant admit the fantasy of F22s being enough to protect Biden from MiG launched Kinzhal missile is just that, fantasy, nothing more.
It's been used several times already in the war, and the Ukrainians have admitted they cannot shoot it down. What more do you want? A MiG possibly carrying this missile was in the air today in Belarus, easily capable of hitting Biden in Kiev. It didnt, because Russia gave Biden security guarantees - otherwise they would easily have been able to strike.
I'm sure people thought the same in 1940.
Imagine the world we'd live in.
Biden visits Kiev and we've three new accounts with the same viewpoint. Funny that...
I imagine is up to him really, and the receiving/inviting country. All the Dept's of State, Defence and the US military will do there is advise I would have thought?
It is risky but you know, sometimes people do take risks!
I suppose if they (well Putin) decided to make some serious attempt to kill Biden during the visit it would be a crowning hypocrisy after all the pearl clutching that time Biden merely stated Putin "cannot remain in power" etc.
Though I think I remember one of the posts here with clips of the Russian nutty state tv show...they were chin stroking about how Queen Elizabeth's funeral and gathering of pretty much all of the main Western "russophobic/nazi" leaders at it might make it a wonderful target for a strike!
Not true at all .
I stand by what I said,
Your wonderwaffens like everything else about the Russians is a sham ,
But most importantly Timmy .
He won't find any. While some Russian platforms have advantages, the Mig 31 for example in speed and height, the SU 27 in power to weight, but their avionics are very much lagging. The Russian kit tends to be more robust too and better able at operating from rough airfields, certainly compared to the F-16 which has a famously delicate undercarraige, but by pretty much every other metric in areas like pilot workload, connectivity and avionics Western fourth gen kit is ahead and pilots who have flown both agree. This includes Ukrainain pilots and much of their old Soviet kit has been refitted and updated by them after Russia cut the taps off on spares ten years ago.
And Russia doesn't have fifth gen fighters. Well they have five or six near prototypes, some gunthered together, with exposed rivets to be seen. Even Supermatine in the late 30's slapped on flush rivets. An aircraft they were hoping would lead to decent exports for them, but India who have long fielded Russian kit and are good customers had a long look and ultimately said nope, no thanks komrade. Not a good sign.
The same Poland who are also - according to Russian spin - likely to end up annexing western Ukraine for themselves.
Ah yes. Look at how long it took indeed.
Diplomacy. Softly softly approach.
The sane and rational gradual response. Its not necessarily to do with not caring, or being "cowardly". Rather its about not stepping on too many toes all at once and kicking off something unforeseen. Especially with the shadow of nukes and an aging lunatic dictator in the background.
Both US and other countries took this intelligent approach, Germany for example.
No they didnt - they rang up last minute to say "Hey Vlad we're sending HIMARS and if you dont like it will its an act of war and the US will nuke you"
Don't you know we have a diplomacy expert here in this thread
What is not true at all?
Your whole post.
Have you suggestions as to how a lasting peace can be obtained?
Bearing in mind Ukraine already had a peace treaty with Russia, called the Budapest agreement. Russia repeatedly broke this agreement.
What measures do you suggest to ensure Russia abides by any future peace treaty?
Note his use of usual buzzwords of the conspiracy type? "Mainstream media", with the added "Western" for effect(I'm surprised he didn't contract it to MSM as they usually do). Note too the reference to the chemical fire in Ohio, that's another talking point among the conspiracy types.
They are very fertile ground for tweaking to one's own ends and Russia has. I would be willing to bet a very large percentage of those who were going on about Bill Gates weaponising vaccines during covid, who firmly believe the NWO/Elites/WEF are controlling the world(though their boy putin was involved in the WEF in the past) and go on about Big Pharma, Big Government and such would be supportive of Russia in this. Either directly, or less directly in "calling for peace". That Russian spin has been able to co-opt the conspiracy nuts, the hard right and the hard left, even the Red Pill guys(who love putin for being such a strong man. No homo) is impressive. Strange bedfellows though.
The Ukrainian air defense warning network did, likely advised bu the US surveilance assets.
All of it
He could have talking about you ...
So tell us what your Russians negotiated to get anilated by several times a week,by HiMars,
Thousands of Russians dead as a direct result of HiMars strikes in Ukraine but it only happening because of negations,so what did the Russians received in this negotiaton exactly or is it a case of making it up as you go along
Or the air raid siren was triggered on the ground to clear streets .
Pretty short air raid siren the Americans didn't even flinch,
Considering the claims of Mig 31 screaming towards them carrying a cruise missile.....
Or was it something else ?
Or your fantasy f18s ....
No mention of hypersonic missiles today or other days.
In your article it stays they cannot shoot down ballistic missiles.
But yet air defenses in Ukraine are regularly shooting down Russian missles ballistic and cruise missiles.
Is he missing something?
They won’t be selling Gold, step outside the main stream media propaganda news.
Ok, where do you get your news from? Be specific please.
Careful.
He's in Langley. Virginia.
wink wink, say no more. never know who you're talking to.
Mike DeWine insists on dealing with it on his own with Norfolk Southern, makes a total balls of it and creates a disaster but refuses to declare a disaster, days later finally decides to declare disaster thereby enabling the release of FEMA funds, but Biden is indifferent for not acting quicker.
You lot really do live in la la land.
Sorry for the OT.