80% of the public support on-shore wind farms apparently
Survey source: a windfarm business
There's a huge turbine in Dundalk with hundreds of houses within 600m of it and nobody gives it a second thought.
The emissions target for 2030 is an 80% reduction so we can still use gas for dark calm days.
Offshore wind at a good location has a capacity factor of ~50%. So half the time you wouldn't need nuclear which effectively doubles the cost of its power.
Having multiple onshore and offshore wind farms at different locations, and solar and interconnectors and storage further reduces the times nuclear would be needed increasing it's power costs further still.
This is the % of onshore wind and interconnectors on the grid. Doubling our installed capacity would make the 50% line the new 100% line. And we'll have solar and offshore wind too.
No need to figure how to keep the lights on during the typical years of delays and cost overruns of nuclear power. Hinkly-C will add £10-£15 (2012) to UK household bills. As our grid is a tenth the size that would translate to over €222.20 extra here for one nuclear power plant.
If you were within any tangible proximity to the windfarm you would happily share the details...
10/10 generalisation. I'm sure they are all delighted 👍
There you go projecting your opinion on everybody else. I know that area and many living there. They're not bothered by it. What have you to suggest otherwise?
What the hell do you consider tangible proximity, because if I state the distance here you'll just say it's not close in your view. Maybe you need to say what you call our local area.
This is like trying to have a discussion with a sack of frogs.
Nobody "discussed" it, you made the claim and provided no evidence beyond repeating the claim when challenged
He's a conspiracy theorist. He doesn't do reasoned debate
One of the Burkes must be anti windfarm
I live 900m from a windfarm. What details would you like to know?
Whose we? As far as I can tell, all of us confessed "culchies" are fine with them, many of us within spitting distance.
Actually no, truth be told I probably shared too much as you could probably work out with the info I have given in this thread and other unrelated threads which house is mine or at least narrow it down to six in the county. @Jim_Hodge is smarter than me in that regard.
What is close enough to have a relevant opinion as a matter of interest
As a general rule fossil fuel plants don't last 50 years.
Tvindkraft is a Danish wind turbine that's been producing power since 26 March 1978.
In a lot of cases the economics favour replacing wind turbines with newer, larger, more efficient ones to make better use of the infrastructure. The old turbines can be used elsewhere rather than being end of life. Or you can refurbish and re-blade them for a fraction of the cost of the original setup.
Solar has very low running costs and complements wind.
Give it a rest with the insults or you'll likely be banned shortly. Recommend that you review the charter and site rules. Just a friendly heads up as yours is a new account.
The Corrib Gas terminial is down the road from my place in North Mayo - compared to the ugly sprawling mess that is the BNM giant Owenhinny wind farm hacked out of peatland and forest further out, its barely noticeable. Good thing too cos no matter how many of these useless white elephants that get built, we will still need all the conventional power we can get as the likes of Germany knows all too well
Isn't the Corrib gas field due to run out of gas in a few short years?
Someone hasnt read the thread
Maybe we can discuss gas terminals another day, I asked you about a gas or nuclear power plant. As an aside, peat power stations did a bit of hacking out of bogs too.
Serious lack of self awareness here
Accusing others of generalisation when your basic argument is 'the poll isn't going the way I'd like cos the people voting "yes" live in urban areas' 😅
Lol there's plans for a massive windfarm off the coast of dalkey actually, planning permission has been sought.
Because people outside Dalkey don't object to windfarms?
What double standards? You just invented some caricature of media luvvies, or something. You people always come out with the same old rubbish.
Also what working class areas are you talking about where they have put wind farms? I saw some in Roscommon a couple of months ago and the only houses I saw around there were enormous, the locals seemed pretty loaded to me.
Yes , which means it can be used for storage of hydrogen or hydrogen carriers after that.
Way more than enough to cover gaps in wind or solar.
They won't be in your area unless you live 10Km offshore ;)
There'll be windfarms on the sand banks far offshore all down the East coast. They cost more than onshore wind but are in windier locations.
Details : https://www.gov.ie/en/foreshore-notice/ebe99-innogy-site-investigation-dublin-array-at-kish-and-bray-banks/
I love wind farms. I think the turbines turning are like works of sculpture.
20% of your posts at least so far have accused someone of "man maths"
Not really true.
These would be the sandbanks which should be MPA's under EU legislation(major seabird feeding sites etc.), yet the government just handed them over to developers. That will end well...
As reported in the Tuam Herald last week, 400 locals from the tiny village of Clonberne in East Galway turned up at a meeting to oppose a planned industrial windfarm in the locality. Doesn't sound like 80% of the locals r too keen to be towered over by these white elephants does it??
We had 9MW of turbines installed in Ireland in 2021. Used to work in a place that had a 1MW diesel generator about the size of a 20ft shipping container. It was the back up for a single very small data center and associated office.
Only including the size in case anyone doesn't know how pathetically small 9MW is.
The reason for the tiny amount of wind energy installed was that the subsidy scheme covering wind installation expired in 2020 and the new one hadn't kicked in yet.
If they made any sense the rate of installation wouldn't have ground to a halt when the hand outs dried up.
Thank you for confirming that as a general rule fossil fuel plants don't last 50 years. Corrosion in thermal generators is generally a function of the Arrhenius Rate Equation.
I'm getting 14% from "Tvindkraft had clocked up 150,540 operational hours and had generated 20,000, 000 kilowatt-hours of electricity.Tvindcraft has a maximum output capacity of 900kW" And that efficiency would be better with modern technologies like permanent magnets , better blades and electronics.
One way of extending lives of wind turbines is to use them in less harsh conditions. I'd imagine that offshore wind turbines would have a useful second life in the midlands or similar. If upgrading an existing wind farm then the capital costs would be minimal.
In the UK the most recent CfD price for offshore wind was £37.50/MWh(2012) VS Nuclear at 92.50/MWh(2012)
UK round 1 CfD's were awarded in 2019 so they will expire in 11 years and then it's the marginal costs of wind and solar VS. Nuclear's CfD of £121.76/MWh in 2023 values but index linked until at least 2062.
"One way of extending lives of wind turbines is to use them in less harsh conditions. I'd imagine that offshore wind turbines would have a useful second life in the midlands or similar. If upgrading an existing wind farm then the capital costs would be minimal."
You might imagine this but it's hardly reality. Technologies change, new subsidies and grants come in, business must be made and customers churned.
can you point to any type of construction at this stage tahh doesn’t have the locals out complaining?
In my area for months people complained about mobile signal, then the same people all went nuts when a new mobile antenna was put up 🤦♂️
I seen recently a solar panel installation had people complaining and the complaints was due down to lack of knowledge…
P.S try put a nuclear plant in the area and it will be 40000
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