80% of the public support on-shore wind farms apparently
Survey source: a windfarm business
My area was once a scenic backdrop, the entrance to Connemara. Now it is tainted with motion-sickness inducing human created tat. They are more of a symbol of human encroachment on nature than the solidarity that they claim
One-off housing is a far bigger blight on Connemara
Voted yes because I actually quite like the look of them. Off-shore is probably better since we're on the Atlantic though.
Each to their own, I find them quite nice and peaceful, there is a walkway pretty much underneath the ones beside me. Don't get me wrong, I am pro nuclear power but I just never understood the hatred for wind farms here. As others have said, the public are awhile away from switching to accepting nuclear, until then, unless the government start mandating solar on every roof of new builds and retrofitting to all apartment blocks, with future retrofitting to all houses. Yes planning has to be done properly but other than that, I am all for it until the general public accept nuclear.
I’m not cool with that, and if they put the monstrous things into the lifeless green fields that would be better. But they seem to prefer destroying bogs out west, and building enormous roads and concrete platforms to access them.
This is exactly it. These businesses have an incredible skill of molding public opinion to suit themselves. Even have the media backing them with George Lee telling everyone what they should think is good for them.
Wait til you see, in 10 years all those companies will have pivotted to the next environmentalist fad and start the profits going again.
Also, the windmills also won't work if it's too windy...
the general public accept the idea of huge infrastructure projects like rail and metro and power plants, we just are incapable of long term large scale projects in ireland and have always lacked the leadership for it. short term gains are all our politicians were ever interested in. also our planning system means we can't even get blocks of apartments built at any decent heights and people think we'll be able to build a nuclear power plant one day, it's pretty hilarious. nuclear is not happening in any of our lifetimes, you haven't been paying attention if you think otherwise.
"Too windy" in that context is 25m/s (or 30m/s for the newer/upgraded turbines). That's storm force winds, which rarely occur for any sustained period of time.
The schadenfreude of the poll being very close to 80% @Markus Antonius
they arent windmills 🤣🤣
Doh!
It doesn't surprise me. Much of the clientele of "current affairs", I would expect, would be knee-deep in the climate crisis alarmism
Had I posted it in After Hours it would flip the other direction naturally...
Serves to highlight the reach of the green propaganda
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wind·mill ˈwin(d)-ˌmil
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: a mill or machine operated by the wind usually acting on oblique vanes or sails that radiate from a horizontal shaft
especially : a wind-driven water pump or electric generator
Are you mad? This forum or even this entire site is an anti green anti woke anti everything mecca usually and still the poll is in favour of these giant wokemills destroying everything it means to be rural Irish!
The nearest one to me is 400m, Pauly, if you're 800m away from your nearest one, you hear very little and have very little shadow flicker.
I lived in the NL in the early 2000's. The wind turbines was all over the place and nobody had any issues with them/noise etc. The technology has got better and better since then so why would you think in 10 years time they will move away from them?
The potential for wind is a lot better than in the NL as well with the Atlantic ocean, it is a pity Ireland is so far behind and we should have been installing these turbines many years ago
A windmill is used for grain and is an excellent example in the picture above of the old ones you still see in NL today. The clue is in the name windmill
A wind turbine is what is been installed now to generate electricity.
That's my understanding anyway
Wokemills. Love it
economists such as Eric Lonergan must be wrong so!
Yeah, my memory of being up north near Zwolle was every farm had one going, not as large as here but a decent size, you'd hear a gentle humm off them as you cycled through the countryside but they were within 100m of people's houses and no one seemed bothered, that was 15 years ago.
Exactly and the technology has got better since then. I have stood close to some of the big ones here recently and couldn't say I thought it was loud etc so thats why I asked if the person had done a noise test.
Did you post it to reddit too op?
It looks like a similar result there too
As I said in my post, they are to the south west where the prevailing wind comes from & we can't have the bedroom window open at night because of the noise. I don't think we should be subjected to any flicker at all.
Diddums. You can hear the M50 roaring from about 6am from my house in Dublin with out of towners driving in from afar. That's moderdn life for you.
Have you done any noise tests?
Did ye hear them lining up on RTE radio this afternoon? - first the Howth fishermen, followed quickly by the Coastal Protection Org or some crowd like that. Getting their spake in first and leaving nobody in any doubt as to their opposition.
Grand, stick them up in an industrial park near you so.
I think you will find, if the person has done a noise test, that the majority of houses around motorways/airports etc have a lot more noise pollution.
Speaking from personal experience, as a plane flies over my head, the noise of a wind turbine is nothing in comparison.
Fine, so build them near motorways and urban areas then. Also practical as that's where the power is needed most.
They're detailed noise simulations done on all projected windfarms.
Interesting how some people find them disturbing, a source of anxiety, a destruction of calming countryside views. Others find them stimulating, visually interesting, even calming. A real psychological difference (due to neurotransmitter levels, I believe).
I think one of the biggest issues is the sometimes constant flickering movement and wonder if those who actively like them also like constant sensory stimulation in other ways as well. I'm thinking of background music or chatter, or videos playing at the corner of a computer screen while looking at something else.
We definitely need more windfarms, but maybe there should be larger areas where they are banned, and not just near national parks. This could be a public health issue, though there's not much evidence yet.
Putting the large wind turbines in build up area would reduce the output from them. As I posted above the best options in cities etc is solar panels.
I did see online about small turbines they have installed along motorways but I don't think they are gone past development stage
You will find people will find fault no matter what location they are installed in, that seems to be the way here in Ireland. If the noise is such a problem the first thing I would do is take a noise test so I had something to bring to the local councillors etc. That's why I asked. Seemed a reasonable question
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