Yes, we need to be very wary of politicos that are offering a silver bullet easy fix that goes against science, engineering and all international experience.
You speak as if I’m wrong. We stand beside each other. I’ve always said all, not road only. No “onlys”. All of it, or it’s the same as none. Cycle lanes. The ring road. Park & ride. Pedestrianisation. Gluas if the numbers are there. The whole shagging lot are needed for a city *and its surroundings* with one/two crossings for large transport. The reliance on two bridges will one day take lives, if it hasn’t already. Relieve it & get the shagging cars out of the city.
If all is an option then it should be proposed as all. Not a ring road with vague promises for unapproved potential follow-up projects. The difficult discussion around those projects haven't happened.
If "all" is the ring road plus the current GTS then that's not near ambitious enough.
There are no plans to "get the shagging cars out of the city" and there never will be.
There doesn't even need to be.
Just need higher priority and better infrastructure for the higher capacity and higher efficiency sustainable modes and reduced priority and access for the low efficiency / low capacity car.
“There never will be.”
has anyone said that?
”Just need higher priority and better infrastructure for the higher capacity and higher efficiency sustainable modes and reduced priority and access for the low efficiency / low capacity car.”
Better to be looking at than looking for. To “just” do things is to be forever “looking for”.
Happy Mid-Term Break to the remaining rush hour commuters this week!
you mean its safe to venture outside?
No, it's also Rag Week. So just different hazards from the usual ones.
You do know that reducing priority is a deliberate act of frustrating cars off the road, right?
No need to be even more disingenuous about this stuff than you usually are.
1 year on, Cllr's get a reminder at todays council meeting
One year ago
Deliberately deliberate even
Its really very simple
the options the council came up with were really amateur hour,no local engagement!
Did you even read the Twitter thread? The bit about it being a delicate process, and being best with residents agreement.
Simple my a$s.
I'd love to know where he's travelling to, that, that gap in the wall made his cycle home from Cappagh Park much quicker.
Also, the only people who benefit when it comes to the bus stop, are those who miss the bus in Seacreast
Finally, I use take my bike through the gap every day for years, when there was a step. It wasn't very difficult
How easy would it be with a cargo bike?
Or a pram?
Or a wheelchair?
If the design of permeability is done with accessibility in mind it meets every potential use case not just a few
I agree, it is helpful for people with prams and wheelchairs. I question where they are going though?
All that is at one end, is a main road, and a bus stop. There is a bus stop on the same route, a similar distance away from the wall at Seacrest.
I still wonder about his first point, where is he going to from Cappagh park, that his journey that much shorter?
I would argue his whole tweet is pure exaggeration, and propaganda.
It is benefitting a very small number of people, and that is great for them, but being honest, it has no impact on the majority of people in the area, and has a negative impact on the people living there
What's the negative impact on the people living there?
People bought houses at the end of, basically a cul de sac, with little to no foot traffic.
Now, they have pedestrians walking by their houses more frequently, and it's not well lit.
There was a gap there before. It's a right of way. It's just more accessible now.
I know. I know the walkway very well.
All I said was that the people who live there are now worse off, and I was asked "how?"
But your answer doesn't show them worse off. They bought the house knowing the route was there and it's just a bit more accessible now, which they might even be happy about. They also don't own the public space and we're all susceptible to changes in public infrastructure occurring near our homes and this is about as mild as it gets in that respect.
we're all susceptible to changes in public infrastructure occurring near our homes
So if the council decide to build a sewage treatment plant near your home, you just need to put up with it? Or the HSE and a methadone clinic?
Replace parking with driving in this tweet
Of course it shows they worse off. The area is not lit up well, so it's attractive route for people who don't want to draw attention to themselves.
At least I'm attempting to answer questions asked of me.
Im still waiting for someone to explain to me how the guy in the original tweet is saving any substantial time, on a journey from Cappagh Park through this passageway.
I still argue, its an unnecessary walkway, and closing it up would have impacted less people
Why are you focusing on just this one person? Its the local people in the area that this upgrade of surface treatment and widening benefits including the people on this very street. Parents going to the playground in McGrath's field, less time spent on the busy Coast Road, shorter walk cycle times to the prom etc etc
I use that short cut all the time to get to Blackrock from upper ballymoneen rd. I'm very happy that they've opened it up and improved the road surface.
Fair enough, it saves you 200m, as opposed to going straight down the Ballymoneen Road to the traffic lights and onto the Barna Road.
It's hardly a massive difference though.
For what_traffic, you ask why I'm focusing on one person?
I was focusing on the person who tweeted, that's all.
Have you tried to cycle that small stretch of Barna rd? From the lights to the Salthill turn off?
+1 for this. Even walking that stretch is really unpleasant as the Coast Road has such a high volume of car traffic. Footpath on only one side of the road and it is not the widest footpath and the carriageway width is narrow as well.
The Windscreen view of the world unfortunately is strong on this thread.
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