Have you a reference for this advice? The LFP battery in my attic is charged to 100% and stays there most of the day on sunny days. The manufacturer guarantees the number of cycles of the battery (80% remaining after 6000 cycles or 11 years I believe). They do mention not to leave the battery below 80% SOC if storing it for a long time and to recharge it every 6 months or so.
note that that Pylontech LFP battery is uses passive thermal management unlike the tesla which is water cooled to remain operating the optimal temperature range.
@unkel :" You got that bit wrong, it's simply the cheapest way for Tesla to get batteries into cars being produced in both Germany and China "
Maybe, but i'll bet we're still getting CATL LFP cells in our RWD MIC MY. Would be delighted if that's changed to BYD but the stated range would have to change I believe.....
Yes
I think LFP batteries degrade faster initially if you charge to full 100%. Better to charge less unless you actually need that full range. Reason for full charge is that. Range is calculated from the voltage level. LFP has a lower voltage and voltage decline is more difficult to establish due to the lower Delta. Its more for Tesla to accurately predict the range. But at your own cost to yoir battery health. Sure do it a few times to 100%.But dont make it a habit as its not as good for the longer term health. Something to consider.
Can we change payment method on app to a new method? After submission I.e.
@ds20prefecture - "which I guess is why Tesla will be using it in MIG RWD cars"
You got that bit wrong, it's simply the cheapest way for Tesla to get batteries into cars being produced in both Germany and China 😁
I posted it on the thread here at some stage last year, but the BYD batteries are even cheaper for Tesla to buy then the CATL ones, at just $80 per kWh at pack level iirc. So just $4400 for a MIG RWD Model Y with the BYD pack.
Totally agree on Tesla's supercar performance for a fraction of the price having paved the way for the acceptance of EVs
If LFP was the only battery technology, most of the supply & cost constraints of EVs would have disappeared years ago. What BYD have done with the Blade structural battery pack is arguably much more profound than Tesla's pending 4680, which I guess is why Tesla will be using it in MIG RWD cars/
The NCM/NCA chemistry has people spoiled to expect supercar acceleration from an otherwise pedestrian saloon/SUV. On the flip side, if Tesla had not given their pedestrian saloon supercar acceleration and convinced the world that electric was better, we'd all be buying Euro 7 diesels...
And of course then go on to tell them they should immediately stop using their petrol and diesel cars, because their fuel is refined using cobalt. If they are sincere about doing something about child labour in the Congo, they should just cycle or walk. Or get an EV 😂
And LFP has no cobalt so you can shut down the people who start talking about child labour and environmental damage in the Congo.
Yes. If you click into your account, you should see a picture of the car. Click manage and then follow the steps.
Yes. As per the below screenshot, the 4th step of the process, "Registration", will prompt you to put in the name, home address, as well as uploading the front and back of the driver license, of the owner for the coming car.
And you can do the above now, without having to await the assignment of the VIN.
Yes, you are absolutely correct - LFP has much higher threshold for heat.
Tesla appears to have pretty good battery safety management with not many cases of NCA battery caught fire? Hope it stays this way. 😊
I haven't entered any details other than setting up the account and paying the deposit. Is it possible to enter a different name at the registration phase?
@liyan - You forgot the third main advantage: safety!
I'm not an expert in this, so I could be totally wrong. But according to what I learned recently, LFP isn't really a new battery technology, and has its own pros/cons compared with NCA.
It has lower energy density than NCA, so LFP packs less kWh than NCA with the same volume - hence less range on RWD than LR. And it has poorer cold weather performance. But it has two main advantages:
1) It's cheaper than NCA.
2) It has longer cycle life, i.e. it can live with more charging cycles than NCA.
The latter advantage is probably key for your decision making. Tesla recommends always charging LFP to 100% where possible. So you can fully utilise the claimed range of 455km for daily driving.
For LR, the recommendation is only charging to 80% or 90% max, which leads to a similiar daily range as LFP.
RWD vs LR really depends on your need. If you are not doing many long trips, RWD would be sufficient IMO. If you want the longest possible range and don't mind the extra 7k EUR, LR is probably the way to go.
Speed or all-wheel drive is not important to me. As MY is going to be used as a family car.
Trade plates as Eml mentioned.
Or some work around with the car being registered to Tesla UK, therefore not Irish.
BMW done it and any other other dealer that was bringing in UK cars.
Trade plates I assume.
How can Tesla run an English reg demo in Ireland - do the VRT rules not apply to them? I understood that no Irish residents are allowed to drive a U.K. registered car in Ireland
I predict 38k 😀
€65,500 new
I got 56,050 for 2020, white on white with EAP.
I am sooooo looking forward to the revised trade price 😂
Still very low given the base SR+ models are now selling privately for about €33k (likely to drop to about €30 in the next few weeks / months). I would have thought a Performance should sell for close to €40k privately. Tough market out there though.
@Killer K @kennethsmyth
Great stuff. Thanks.
Obviously disappointing given that it was worth a lot more a month ago but maybe it’s not that crazy considering it’s a 4 year old car that now costs €60K new.
Got a Trade-In Credit of €35,919.00 for a 2019 M3P.
I know the prices are not updated on their website, asking 51k for a 2019 M3P- and 57.9k for a 2020 M3P
Lowest advertised I could find is 43.7k for a 192 M3P in Limerick - in the last day, other than that, asking 49.9k for next cheapest...
Yep an post money (avantcard) was best value, I got 5.9% for half the value of model y say - quick and easy also.
Ds20 gave a good summary of the batteries a good few pages back, worth quoting again to save you digging back through the thread.
The grant is due to go in July, so you can order both and take whichever comes up first, then cancel the other order.
Did you enter the registration details online?
Yes you can. When registering ask natalie she will sort it out for you
I know, but it's 7.5k more expensive. 53k for RWD was alsways a bit of stretch for me so the price drop on RWD to 46.5k was very welcomed by my bank account. I can live with the current ID. 3 performance so I'm sure I'll be OK in MY RWD.
