Riddle me this:
If there are enough people with environmental concerns to actually get the Greens elected - why aren't there more who want enhanced public transport, suburban permeability and extensive cycle lanes?
Are you OK?
Hardly seems worth it
Don't tell SeaSlacker!!
Yeah the most populated areas of Oranmore are on the Maree end of Oranmore village so it's quite a walk to the train station.
If a shuttle bus ran twice to the train station in the half hour before a train departs it'd be great. It it was an electric bus all the better and greener.
The lack of direct bus to the industrial estates is beyond ridiculous, it's something the councillors should be ashamed of not putting pressure on bus eireann about for years. If you got a bus lane from knocknacarra to parkmore, and Oranmore to parkmore, by hook or by crook and planted buses every fifteen mins at peak times that guaranteed being in parkmore in say 20 mins every single day at peak times, it'd surely help traffic?
Right now you'd need to get the bus from Oranmore to gmit and then get a different bus back the way you came in order to get to parkmore. Madness.
There's not enough demand to run a service from Oranmore to the ind estates according to census data.
There would be if there was a whacking big P&R car-park near the bus stop
Have you emigrated yet?
So, is the GCRR/ Bypass/ whatever other name you want to call it, now officially dead in the water, or can the city council waste more time and money on long drawn out appeals even after this?
Where does the city go from here wrt to infrastructure development?
Will the working plebs (of which I am one btw!) will face another decade of No action by city council to improve transport options into/ out of the city?
It’s time for brave and different decisions, I fear though that we don’t have enough city or county councillors, or even LA engineers brave enough to see those potential options!
https://twitter.com/paulinegalway/status/1620048536439246849?s=46&t=vRitRerxw2nY1RDjJJbgIQ
NOW we can start getting to work transforming the how the city moves.
Perfect timing given the GTS is undergoing review this year. Expect a complete overhaul of it
This is a good thing!
Cycling in Galway features on RTE again this evening
Further news on the ring road decision
Galway County Council’s planning application for a €600 million ring road around Galway will be remitted to An Bord Pleanála for fresh consideration.
Final orders were made on Monday in three judicial review actions that had challenged the planning board’s permission for 18km project that was intended to ease chronic traffic congestion in the city.
The planning application, which was first submitted in 2018, will revert to the stance it held on June 2021, immediately after An Bord Pleanála’s planning inspector made a submission on the proposal.
Honestly, I struggle to see how this will make any difference. Now that ABP have to consider the GCRR in the context of the Climate Action Plan, the case for it is even worse than before as it, in no way, aligns with the Climate Action legislation and runs 100% contrary to it on a number of points
There is no Plan B, everything is bypass or nothing
Another 1yr+ for ABP to review the case again. Home owners left in limbo. Galway to remain locked up with all projects waiting for the magic ring road.
Time for someone to step up and call it for the ring road - "time of death...* checks watch *".
Just to note that once they publish a decision, the clock starts again in terms of objections, hearing, appeals, decisions, appeals to those decisions etc etc
In fairness, Catherine Connolly has been vocal on this for 20+ years, as a Cllr and a TD. She more or less labelled it finished last November and other times. She's generally been dismissed by the powers that be. She deserves serious recognition for her stoic stand
In 2018:
Independent TD Catherine Connolly believes "groupthink", which has prevailed since abandonment of the previous Galway "outer bypass", is blinding planners to other solutions. And this at a time when climate change initiatives should be influencing a move away from cars. “Can we justify spending just over €30m per kilometre on yet another road?”she asked.
Another consideration is the City Council's own City Development Plan and more specifically the Climate Action section
https://consult.galwaycity.ie/en/system/files/materials/613/GCC%20Development%20Plan_Chapter2.pdf
The GCRR goes against pretty much every line in that document
I usually have a lot of time for Moggie, but this is right up there for the "dumbest sh1t a politician has said" award
The Cathaoirleach of Galway County Council has called for the introduction of Automatic Number Plate Readers on routes across Galway.
Michael ‘Moegie’ Maher believes that the addition of ANPRs on roads into villages and towns would help make Galway a safer place
The amount of points at which this suggestion fails is numerous.
Does she not just always go against what the governing parties say? The Ring Road needs to be built - the city can not possibly grow without it. More public transport and safe cycling can only happen if more roads are built. Just look at the objectors to this; Friends of the Environment (great name, by the way!) is just another name for An Taisce given how many are on both boards - serial objectors to progress in this country, the Race Course - give me a break - and a building providers. Planning in this country is the problem.
Pretty daft alright. If ANPRs going to be used - first place likely to see them installed is going to at Bus Gates / bus lanes in Galway City i'd say.
More public transport and safe cycling can only happen if more roads are built.
Nope. Disproven time and time again
Hell you only have to look at SQR to shot a gapping hole through that argument.
But if you want historical evidence have a Google for "Dublin City Council Canal Cordon Survey". It's an amazing project that's been running for decades and the evidence and data gained from it forms the basis of mobility planning in Dublin City for the last 20+ years
I'm not sure what problem he's trying to solve with this idea. Seems very vague
and the fact that ABP is now under the microscope for any political influence, shady and arbitrary decisions etc, which the Board (not the inspectors) made an artform.
Surely that makes it less likely to get an approval with ABP if the big developer money can't help "open up" land for development on the other side of the ring road.
Well if Plan B is bikes and buses, it won't work. Dream on if you think that's a solution to Galway's traffic!
I'm not debating the theory, I'm saying for Galway city how can you practically get people on bikes and public transport in and out of the city centre from the east, west and northern parts of the city using the existing roads network?
The roads are too narrow and too infrequent. SQR is fine between the two roundabouts, and so is WDR. The Prom would be fine too if they'd just go and do it. But Threadneedle road is not, Taylors Hill is not, Shantalla/Rahoon Road is not. The old Dublin road is not. College Road is not. Long term, basically, every road inside the N6 loop would need to have the private car removed from it and replaced with buses and bikes. The centre of town should also be completely pedestrianized. I am in favor of all of this but it cannot happen without an outer loop road. This would enable park and ride, especially for those coming from commuter towns, it would filter Connemara traffic away from the city (of which there is a hell of lot during tourist season), and generally funnel traffic away from the city rather than into it.
60% of Galway City traffic starts and ends within the city boundaries with 40% never crossing the river.
Move even half of that 60% to sustainable modes and the remainder flows easily
What in the name of God is this?!
That's literally the only option. Is Galway different to every other town in the world?
It's the traffic patterns for commuters. Its similar to the one in the planning application which has the same data.
As you can see, one of the main arguments for it, to allow for full bypassing of the city, would only be useful to 3% of all traffic
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