I'll have a go, but Unkel will no doubt correct :)
MIC: Made in China
MIF: Freemont
MIT: Texas
MIG: Germany
MIC MY LR has Nickel Cobalt Manganese (NCM) in 2170 cylindrical form factor supplied by LG Chem
MIF MY LR has Nickel Cobalt Aluminium (NCA) in 2170 cylindrical form factor supplied by Panasonic/Tesla joint venture
MIC MY RWD has Lithium Iron Phosphate (LiFePo4) in prismatic pouch form supplied by CATL.
MIG MY RWD will have Lithium Iron Phosphate (LiFePo4) in blade pouch form supplied by BYD
MIT/MIG MY LR has Nickel Cobalt Aluminium (NCA) in 4680 cylindrical form factor made onsite supplied by Tesla
LiFePo4 batteries are less energy dense than NCM and have lower limits on charge and discharge rates. That's part of the reason why the LR is much quicker to 60. The two motors are the primary reason, but together they demand a huge amount of current from the battery, which the LiFePo4 battery can't meet. Also why RWD car is limited to 170KW fast charging vs 250KW for LR. LFP batteries are heavier for a given battery capacity, and (bizarrely) don't vary in the voltage very much when full or empty. That makes range more difficult to predict.
On the other hand, LiFePo4 batteries are less subject to physical size changes when fully charged, and less subject to building "dendrites" (little lithium stalactites inside the battery) when sustained at 100%. This means that more of the battery is reliably usable in the real world, somewhat negating the range. LiFePo4 are also much less likely to suffer from thermal runaway in a short circuit situation such as puncture or battery damage making them safer
Laymans guide here: Pros and cons of LFP vs cobalt batteries explained - YouTube
Nerds guide here: #2 CATL LFP vs Tesla NCA // Full Rundown of the Science and Specs - YouTube
Last point – I have not yet placed an order; do I have any chance in getting a car by July 2023!
Every day you delay increases your chances of missing July when a grant reduction happens
friends MY LR order is giving April now :
Nice one, excellent summary and very helpful.
Has anyone had any updates from Tesla. My ED (RWD) is 17 Feb - 6 Mar. Completed the SEAI form and added payment options on the account so just waiting patiently now for a text.
Picked these up recently! Was eyeing them up and bit the bullet when the price of the Y dropped. Wife thinks I've lost the plot but feck it! YOLO 😎
(Can share a discount code, if anyone is interested, drop us a pm)
No notting ive just feb -march sill no estimated dates does telsa not do the SEAI for you.
You went and bought full rims! you're not messing around :)
Im dittering around on pulling the trigger for some turbine hup caps for 200 quid lol
😁 I know the feeling!
Yeah, I'd even bought a set of those Tesla wheel-nut covers (lug nuts?) and centre cap for the Geminis!! I'm obviously not the smartest 🤪
Reckon I could always flog the Gemini alloys if needed. Will hang onto them for now and see how it goes. The guy I was dealing with in the new aero was an absolute gent. Couldn't have been more helpful with questions and follow up after delivery. Super company and wish them every success.
Yeah they sure do. Sorry, just meant Tesla emailed the form and I completed it and sent it back is all.
Im Feb 18th to Mar 6th, ive had no contact re forms or anything else.
You should get an email this week then I'd imagine. No harm checking your spam folder as one ended up in there 🎣
Holy moly, anyone getting a new Y had better check it thoroughly.
Left hand drive. I'm sure we'll be fine.... 👀
well, in that particular instance, it was no-hand drive.
New version of autopilot???
kamikaze pilot, more like.
Like everything these days, people screamed ‘fake news’, so he replied with a vid, and a funny interaction with the Tesla service Center it was towed to - they messaged to say that they got the car but didn’t know why 😀.
Friend had a Fiat 127 sport years ago. Steering wheel had Allen key bolts that would come loose from the vibrations at speed!! Not great seeing him tighten them with his finger while booting it. Maybe it's the same lad driving this one 😁
Bjørn Nyland just released a video on exactly this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-m3KpO2XjQ
"...slide it in like a ninja or blink once like a true BMW driver.." 😀
I have this exact same decision to make, both versions ordered, 350km round trip with 95% motorway and sometimes 40km of slow country roads at my destination (midway). The extra acceleration of the LR is an added bonus but the RWD didn’t seem slow to me on my test drive (Outlander PHEV and Ioniq 28kw current cars). Like you it seems to me that the initial extra range of the LR will tail off after a few years so €7.5k gets me only a short term longer range car. Or am I overthinking this?
From a resale point of view, in 5 years how much of that extra €7.5k is likely to be reflected in the cars value? €3k? So the price difference is less than €1k per year.
You're not overthinking at all. Monday, Wednesday and Fridays I'm convinced that I'll be glad of the extra 40-50km of the LR for those initial years and as someone else posted, the LR has a bigger buffer in reserve, so the range gap might remain to and beyond the 5 years. Tuesdays, Thursdays and Saturdays I cop myself on, realise that with the RWD I can get a 10 minute top up at a DC anywhere on my journey and it'll see me home. Sunday is a day of reflection when I realise that I have no control over what we'll get and that Tesla will decide for us.
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Test drove the Y and the 3 today. The 3 is a nicer drive but I found there was little to no room available behind the driver's seat so I'll definitely be going with my Y order now and cancelling the 3. I couldn't complain about the acceleration of the Y although I'm comparing it to the run of the mill cars I've owned up until now so might not be the best judge. Wasn't a fan of the white interior at all, found it very bright.
I'll take your 3 order😀
Yep, that’s me too. So if you could let me know what you decide I’ll just go with that 😀
Or as you rightly say, what the Tesla lottery delivers!
Only ordered last week so I'd say they haven't even put it into the computer in China yet 😅
Might be of interest. I'm convinced though.
https://www.notateslaapp.com/news/1173/owner-finds-tesla-is-already-using-vision-to-replace-parking-sensors
Tesla maintain the buffer so it will be 7kWh with 75kWh usable when you get it new and 7kWh with 65kWh usable in X years time.
This was the same in my Model S and my current Model 3 so I assume same for Model Y
I would not actually be surprised. In the last 2 weeks I’ve noticed my PDC being ultra sensitive in situations that it never was before.
If I could thanks this again I would 😁
What is the purpose of the buffer? Is it to protect battery health by preventing charging to the true 100%? Or does it behave more like a reserve tank and you can drive beyond 0% ?
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