I wonder how this will work out for him
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No. You claimed the school policies changed recently. You've no evidence of that claim. A request to refer to a student by their preferred name and pronoun isnt a policy.
Dav can you give this a rest please? You know what you’re doing and you know as well as the rest of us you’re trying to piss people off with your thinly veiled implications that no video = no event.
this would be I think the 3rd time in as many days you’ve gone down this same route of inquiry. You’re being deliberately obtuse and intentionally antagonistic. Now worse than that you’re gaslighting users by pretending you’re just asking an innocent question and everyone is just piling on.
If you don’t have anything better to contribute why don’t you go and live in your fantasy land somewhere else.
My point is that it was then that Enock began his protest over that very thing at the time he was told to call someone 'they'. Not before. That was his trigger.
Ah, I see you answered someone else that no, you have no evidence of your claim that was a new policy being pushed on Enoch.
Did it occur to you at all, that this student may be the first trans student to come out at WHS, hence why the policy was only now coming into play?
Yes there are, not every court room is like Law and Order SVU for Christs sake...
Yeah, it's the whole grift. 🤷♀️
A lie is a lie especially when Enoch told the judge the school were lying in the affidavit. There are NO insignificant lies in a courtroom.
Read this
If you read the detail of the school clarifications, you will see that they are insignificant points of detail.
Is time important on this thread?
And again, I have never said it didn’t happen, nor insinuated it didn’t happen. If you think I have, you are mistaken. I said it is remarkable a video doesn’t exist if either event, it is you and a few others that to think it means something else.
I haven’t bothered reading the last few pages of the thread so apologies if this has been said already, but regarding the church service part and why there is no video evidence on Snapchat or TikTok etc it is entirely possible that the students were at the service with their parents and when Burke started having a go at the principal someone DID go to take their phone out only to have it snatched out of their hand by their parents.
I was trying to be constructive in what I find to be an increasingly frustrating thread.
It just seems to me that for one reason or another there is no video of what happened that day.
That's a bit chicken.
I'm basing my judgement on the event that sparked off his protest which seems fairly obvious. The evidence is there ie he began his bad behaviour at that time, not before.
And now that you’ve read the school policy about mobile phones, do you still think that it is remarkable?
You claim to know for "a fact" something you only heard second hand.
"Apparently the parents who I'd guess hung out too much on Twitter decided that their son was female after playing with girls toys when young"
Again you know for a fact something"apparently" "you guess"
It's clear by your language about the parents that you have an agenda.
It's either a "my friends friends friend heard down the pub" story or nonsense you made up yourself.
Ok so we've established that you find the fact that there are no videos around when no phones were around to record videos, that this is somehow "remarkable".
Apparently you find this so "remarkable", that you keep remarking on it for some reason.
You find it remarkable, we get it. Nobody else does
Can we move on now or are you going to keep telling us its "remarkable" because you can't accept the fact that there were no phones present to record a video
Sincere religious convictions about gay people being paedophiles, and your response is “fair play”?
A double negative, are you saying that even if it did exist, it would not be posted?
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You made a claim. Not me. Theres no evidence to support whether your view is correct or not.
That's not a point that's an irrelevant observation.
Either you're trying to say it never happened without saying it never happened (I've asked you four times, ypu never definitively answered) or you're just wasting everybody's time.
Possibly both.
Did you see the videos of him and his family harassing the volunteer school board members at the hotel?
Well if you have it then post it. At least my view that it coincides with him being asked to call a child 'they' has a timeframe. If i'm wrong then why didn't he protest earlier?
By trying to push the idea it's odd that there's no video of it you are quite obviously trying to create doubt around the entire event and infer it didn't happen how the witnesses have claimed.
I have been following the thread and I can't recall you saying it didn't happen.
However would you concede that if it was captured on video that it is very unlikely that the video would not have surfaced by now ?
Not everyone is looking for likes. Just try imagine the situation when a teacher in your school kicks off and starts going after your principle...it would be shock more than anything.
If you want evidence of how this family act, there is a video you can enjoy from the meeting last week. The apple didn't fall too far it seems.
You've tried to claim this before - whats your source for this? How do you know what policies were, or were not in place when Enoch took up employment at WHS?
Yes. And also, the Equal Status Acts would pre-date Enoch's employment start date anyway.
And you are getting over excited. There is neither a hill, nor an insinuation. Merely a fact that I haven’t seen any videos on line, which is remarkable. If memory serves, our kids were required to leave mobiles in their lockers when in school, yet amazingly, sometimes didn’t, which led to a couple of detentions, and one video from their classroom of two parents getting into an altercation in the school car park. I hate to inform you, teenagers don’t always comply with rules, even the ones in posh schools.
Again, point me to where I said it didn’t happen.
Is this all you have to say about this or is there any particular part of the story that you think may be not factual?
My housemate at the time was a teacher in the school and I've no reason to believe that he would be telling me anything but the truth.
I've no agenda here and I don't support Enoch Burke in his actions but I'd be highly skeptical about the whole trans issue and particularly the amount of people who are identifying as trans these days. I'm sure there many genuine cases of gender dysphoria and I've no problem calling anyone by their desired pronouns as long as they are mature enough to have made the decision themselves.
My last school had a handful of trans students in recent years and all bar one of them were on the mildly autistic spectrum. I've no doubt that they all feel that they are different to their fellow classmates and maybe some of them are genuinely effected by gender dysphoria, but if this issue wasn't as popular across social media and the vocal minority of trans activists, I'd think that they wouod have never have gone down this route.
Basically you're making a statement but you dont actually know if the statement is true or not and have no evidence of what you are saying.
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