You're not wrong, but I think both realities are true in parallel here.
Then they shouldnt have set themselves up as a supplier to other nations. Simple.
Once they put themselves in that situation they involved themselves.
The excuses they were trotting out re: Leopards were getting increasingly ridiculous especially as they had already sent Marders.
Bunch of academics looking for a story and more funding, what's new?
And they can't expect to call the shots economically in Europe then go missing when that economic might is needed. Playing the poor mouth doesn't wash in situations like this.
As a German on here, let me just say thank you. Some of this German-bashing is just so tiresome.
Having said that, the government in Berlin really brought a lot of the criticism on by themselves. I can forgive their uncertainty in the first 1-2 months but after that, the really should have gotten their a**e in gear and stopped prevaricating. Their dithering and uncertainty, together with their absolutely horrendous approach to communication, was completely amateurish. Anyone remember the SA-7 debacle back in spring 2022? And don't get me started on Olaf's regular chats with Putin. If there's one thing to be said in this matter, it would be to differentiate between the German government and Germans as a whole, because I can tell you that there there is a huge difference between the two!
Ultimately, Germany is providing quite significant military aid to Ukraine, which is to be applauded. They are getting zero plaudits for it because their leadership is so inept.
The historical reasons excuse has worn thin decades ago.
It is most often trotted out when it is materially disadvantageous to do something.
Looks like Switzerland have done a u turn when it comes to export of weapons and ammunition as well
Looks likes there talk of putin is looking for another mobilisation of 200,000 men for ukraine
I think the present situation in Ukraine eclipses all these historical optics and sensitivities. Germany must be seen to do the right thing now.
If thats the case,things cant be going to well for them,unless they plan it for a spring offensive like Ukraine
Must be close to a million men for a 3 day trip to Kiev and back again.
But you get the feeling he's having a stroke reading the news western tanks and armor are starting to roll
They've never played the "poor mouth" here at any point and are pulling their weight there.
They have been slow on sending weaponry to Ukraine, that is the size of it and what is at issue.
They are the largest economy by a good bit now in the EU and as a result they do have an outsize economic role, that is just a fact.
They've certainly never called the (or any) defence/foreign policy shots in Europe afair (these are the key matters at the moment as regards Ukraine/Russia and the response to the invasion) and no one wanted them to I believe.
Well he is going to need a million men minimum to be able to take whole of Ukraine,and id say he is worried for a good reason when it comes to western tanks,but it remains to see,the most important now is to get the tanks to Ukraine ASAP and get crews trained on them.
Such anger. The 4 or 5 I was talking about are certainly triggered. News reports I posted here this past week from sky news and bbc offered a more balanced view on Germany than the complete pile on in here constantly. I said last Friday that Germany should send the tanks but the constant anti German sentiment/hatred is just out of control. Posting ludicrous conspiracy tweets to that effect constantly.
Countries calling on Germany to send tanks isn’t exactly bad words lol. There’s a difference between criticism and hatred and this threads echo chamber is constantly full of hatred towards Germany.
Crunch crunch...
Unconfirmed reports coming in now that Germany is doing a U-Turn on sending their own Leopards to Ukraine.
Apologies if I missed it from earlier.
30 Abrams coming.....
Very interesting if true, previous statements publicly ruled it out ,the loss of a single Abrams would be a huge propaganda win for the orc's at home
Xenophobia
Interesting to see the purge of corrupt Ukranian officials just weeks after a US delegation warned Kiev that if a single cent of US taxpayer aid went unaccounted for that would pretty much be the end of such aid.
Zelensky not leaving things to chance?
Seems it started after complaints one of the defense ministers paid or organised a company that supplies meals to the defense forces to be paid 4x what they were selling in shops for , and then took an expensive holiday to Spain recently
Technical question - do all the proposed MBTs use the same ammunition? Or will Ukraine need to have multiple ammo supply chains?
I welcome it and it's good to see as it sends the right message to other officials and the donor countries.
Republicans are waiting in the wings to pounce on any hint of misappropriation of taxpayer money.
Absolutely,
I seem to recall a few people on here suggesting hundreds of millions worth of weapons were removed from Ukraine and sold on the black market, but the Americans were quick to report it wasn't happening,
I know of another situation involving a commander of one of the foreign legions making weapons vanish while at the same time dealing drugs , while sending men on suicide missions
Where have the HIMARS gone?
Still doing their thing, just not alot being made public Coming from the Ukrainans,
I believe a Russian barracks received a visit last night another 200+ casualties
Meanwhile in south ifrika, lol.
Do you not read the russian mod pressers? They've been destroyed 500 times over, some even before they left the factory.
I'd say they are conserving and accumulating ammo for the next offensive.
Perhaps the current tranche of impending heavy weaponry might tip a particular balance for the Russian military.
Surely it makes the "Putin problem" an easier one (*for the Russian military) to address than that of engaging with an increasingly formidable enemy.
Obviously the supply of fighter jets is no longer several notches away.
It seems the primary difficulty is that of Putin being too stupid to realise that the West will up the ante until he's beaten.
* edited to add "for the Russian military"
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