I wonder how this will work out for him
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I have a feeling this continues there’s gonna be some parent who will gladly take the rap to give him a well deserved kick in the arse.
From video on twitter it looks like he walked in after the gates were opened to let a car in.
I can't believe anyone would want that job (I'm assuming you don't mean the guards). Can you imagine the amount of non stop moaning you'd hear. Plus if he tried to enter and they tried to stop him, there'd probably be a lawsuit. Best thing for the school is to call the guards. Once the gardai arrive it's their problem, not the schools.
If it keeps happening I wonder if the guards will just send a patrol car around every morning and pick him up at the gates.
Good point. I suppose the staunch Catholics belief in the holy trinity. The father the son and holy spirt what is word for 3 in one person? Still trinity?
To be honest on the binary thing, when I see binary I still think of computers and data.
And when I see 'CIS' mentioned I think of what the Soviet Union used to be before it 'transitioned' into Russia. As it was the Commonwealth of Independent States.
I had to look up the new meaning of Cis first time I saw it, as I had no clue what was being spoken about.
Keeping them open might be necessary to assert it is a “public place” for a Pulic Order Act charge but I still think it’s an error. Even if that is sustainable, it won’t end this matter. They need a public whip around for security to keep him out. It will rob him of publicity unless he constantly comes up and causes difficulties for security in which case he will likely be provoked into an actual criminal act.
He knows when school will end and the students will pour out through the gate
So what then? The kids should have to scale the walls to leave school?
i mean I get your point but what we’re doing now is pointing fingers at the school, when they’re just trying to conduct themselves as normal, it’s Burke who’s behaving abnormally.
it is a school at the end of the day it’s not the Joy the gates shouldn’t be locked 24/7 people need to come and go!
He'd love nothing more than for someone to try physically stop him
Yea they’ll be needing a bouncer at the gates in future.
I understand the suggestion to leave them closed but the fact is people will be coming and going from the school pretty much all day. From the picture as well it’s evident the gate was opened to allow someone authorised to enter and he just snuck in behind them. I’m guessing those would be automatic gates.
The Gardai are gonna be delighted with this anyway. If they’re called out a second time for the same shite in one afternoon.
Just noticed that the propose to charge him under the Public Order Act an essential component of which is that the school is a public place. Might be that they realised that closing the gates undermine the potential charge. I still think they are better closing the gate and excluding him that way. A Dictrict Court public order charge won’t be the end of this.
As the school well know.
OF COURSE they let him in before the students would be walking out through the gates...Well done school/ They foiled him again
Feeling for the students more and more. when the adults act like this it is most disturbing
and it completely ignores the people who are born intersex.
I cant believe they didnt leave someone at the gates to stop him coming back in.
I love the quite that god created them in his image as biologically male or biologically female. Does that not mean that god is binary being both?
From his point of view it is point of principle it is irrelevant whether he teaches the transitioning student or not. The school policy would be if he was addressing that student he would have to use different pronouns.
So Enoch Burke wanted to kick up a fuss. He has succeeded in his mission. That is all it seems to me. By this thread being created it has helped Burke in that mission. All this guy seems to want is attention for his religious crusade/principles.
All part of the master plan. Stop thinking of them in normal terms? More martyrdom and more. Suffering losses in human terms is part of the martyrdom ...They know exactly what they are doing and they do it well.
That pic reminds me of the end credits of the old incredible hulk series.
Don't schools normally finish up around half 3, so he's walking in to walk back out, what a moron.
So as I see it, the next steps in this are as follows (not necessarily in this order but likely something close to it)
as you were typing that the gates were opened and he has gone back in.
Disappointingly, he likely has a basis for that. If there were no issues with his arrest and he was charged then he would have been offered bail on the basis that he stayed away for the school. Breach of bail would be a criminal matter. Unless there was some argy bargy within the school I suspect the Garda head honch or local state solicitor may have advised that there is no sustainable charge and that was why he was released. If that’s the case, Ammi will be at home preparing a civil case for damages for false arrest/detention.
I said he is danger of going from a man of principle to an oddball
That ship sailed a long time ago.
He's going to get himself locked up in a cell at the Garda station for the night.
Surprised the rest of the family aren't there to be honest.
They didn't have the sense to keep them closed!
My thoughts too. I'm off to get some popcorn .
@[Deleted User] Does he not have any hobbies? Like Jesus.
That is his hobby.
Yes but they had the sense to close the gates. They should have done that weeks ago and allowed the students/teachers and anyone else in but precluded all others. That would have facilitated a situation where he olwiuld actually break the law by being aggressive or pushing his way in. Hopefully they will have deputised the parents council or whatever to man the gates from tomorrow.
We'll not have facts and logic around here.
You didn't read my final comment on that post did you? I said he is danger of going from a man of principle to an oddball with his present course of action. However, if his goal was to create a fuss and get media attention he has achieved it.
He has also made claims on issues beyond the transgender one.
Such as
'Jemima, her brother Josiah and Martina Burke had to be removed forcibly by gardaí from a child inquest after causing huge distress to the bereaved family while making unfounded claims about the girl’s hospital care.'
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Personally I think the debate is broader one beyond the transgender issue. Of how religious indoctrination to the extent that it becomes a persons whole identity, can lead to trouble if such individuals are on a 'crusade' against others.
Much like how the transgender lobby is on a crusade to change the world, Enoch Burke is on his own crusade to change the world. Something has to give and Enoch is currently losing. But I have the feeling he loves the attention, as he can play the martyr like Christ himself.
He doesn't strike me as the type with hobbies. or friends.
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