I wonder how this will work out for him
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After this mornings garda release
Ask Sean Quinn about that.
Do not underestimate the mental acuity and motivation of the Burkes. THEY are making the running all the way now. Planned and orchestrated to the last detail.
That is probably why the Gardai took so long removing him. Into damage limitation and conferences with their Superiror officers and legal eagles.
So how long will he stand there?
Maybe put a tent up?
Well, he's a consistent fuckwit, I'll give him that.
It is fairly simple if you stand back from it objectively. Enoch was being forced by his employers to use different pronouns. Ergo creating something that is neither man nor woman. As Enoch is a very religious man and is a member of the Christian Union Society it goes against his religious beliefs.
From the above article
'Isaac, Kezia, Ammi and Enoch Burke, all members of the Christian Union Society (CUS)'
Here is the American version of that grouping
You will note under the ethics page it clearly states the CUS views on this issue
'4 Embracing Personal Identity. Because God creates human beings in His image as either biologically male or biologically female, we affirm the need to embrace God’s design and gift and avoid all attempts at altering a person’s birth-sex or adopting an identity discordant with it (including elective sex-reassignment and transvestite, transgender, or non-binary “genderqueer” acts or conduct).'
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Fundamentally, therefore Enoch Burke believes pronouns go against his religion which clearly state that altering a person's birth-sex is 'discordant' to those beliefs. And Enoch being forced to use 'pronouns' is against against his belief. So he has kicked up a fuss and clearly snapped mentally.
However, I would argue that Enoch has been indoctrinated by his mother. And has a fairly sheltered blinkered view on life in general.
From the independent article above -
'Matriarch Martina Burke, a qualified teacher of repute, has home-schooled all her 10 children. Several of the children have run into controversy in their professional lives, namely Ammi, Jemima and Enoch.'
what an absolute teapot lol
Oh well, its going the criminal route now
They might think they are "planning everything" , but they have lost every single case that they have taken to courts with the exception of the calculated grades case.
But they have lost and lost badly for every single "freedom" case they have ever taken.
Some more details on todays events
No. He is 100% sane as are all his family. The Gardai may well have raised that idea which may have accounted for the time lapse. The Gardai are no match for the Burkes. Manipulative in the extreme. Proabably with MENSA IQs...
Any chance the psychiatric angle can be applied here--- I suspect his mother and siblings have goaded him and demanded that he return to his outpost and do the work of the Lord till the end of time... and he must die on this cross if necessary cos Mama has a direct line to the Big Man above? And before anybody suggests it, I'm not laughing or demeaning him or the situation, instead we are looking at a mentally disturbed individual, quite obviously disturbing the functioning of a school, and using some oddball notion of 'religion' and some peculiar interpretation of Irish law to stand there, literally 'pontificating' Is it time to call in the mental health police rather than the Gardai? He's not for turning
So what’s their plan?
Apparently he has returned again
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If you walked into your child's school and someone who has no right or business to be there was just standing in the hall, what word would you use to describe them?
He may have a MENSA IQ but he seems to be completely lacking in EQ. He has no grip on reality. This isn’t going to end well for him.
Then the Lord God brought me back through the east-facing outer gate of the sanctuary. But it was shut. The Lord told me, “This gate is to remain shut. It will not be opened. No man is to enter through it, because the Lord God of Israel entered through it, so it is to remain shut".
Ezekiel 44:1-2
My moneys on a case for religious persecution!! I well believe every move he takes is completely orchestrated, but my biggest question here is where the fcuk are the parents of the kids in the school?
It wouldn't take much now for a group of parents to gather around the gates and chat, like most parents do in the mornings and completely block his entrance!
I'm sure his parents are delighted. Look at the children they raised. Everyone of them goes out and preaches with a megaphone. Everyone of them is a hardline, rightwing, evangelical. They raised their kids to be like this. There's no independent thinking in those children. There's no deviation from what they were taught. Imagine the amount of brainwashing it takes to get to this stage.
Hopefully the school pursues having him locked up again. He's clearly deranged and he's a danger to the kids in that school and to their education. Absolutely disgraceful stuff.
The moment he was driven away in the back of a squad car
But Enoch didnt teach them so he wasnt being forced to do anything.
I think he could easily end up standing outside for 20 or 30 years.
Fair play to him. January is a sh1t month and he is providing the population with some light entertainment on these dreary days.
contempt of court has nothing to do with protecting the community. Contempt of court is only disrespecting the court or failing to abide by its orders, if he continues to do it in defiance of prior imprisonment than it can hardly be said to be coercive but become punitive for which there is no provision in Irish law - you can look up the Law Reform Commissions papers from a few years ago asking that the law be updated. Not sure what offence there is in a prior restraint - can only be charged once he commits or is believed to have committed an offence. He is offensive, but that’s not enough!
What a sad little man. Arrested, file being sent to the DPP, released & he just saunters back to the school gates.
At this stage I actually feel sorry for him that he’s got such a sad and lonely life this is the best he can do with his time.
Like I’m off work at the min (just my days off) but I’m not going to stand outside the restaurant all day until the Chef opens up tomorrow. I’ve got better things to do. Does he not have any hobbies? Like Jesus.
On his way back in again.
Just gone back in https://twitter.com/SineadHus/status/1617905674259951616?s=20
He doesn't strike me as the type with hobbies. or friends.
You didn't read my final comment on that post did you? I said he is danger of going from a man of principle to an oddball with his present course of action. However, if his goal was to create a fuss and get media attention he has achieved it.
He has also made claims on issues beyond the transgender one.
Such as
'Jemima, her brother Josiah and Martina Burke had to be removed forcibly by gardaí from a child inquest after causing huge distress to the bereaved family while making unfounded claims about the girl’s hospital care.'
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Personally I think the debate is broader one beyond the transgender issue. Of how religious indoctrination to the extent that it becomes a persons whole identity, can lead to trouble if such individuals are on a 'crusade' against others.
Much like how the transgender lobby is on a crusade to change the world, Enoch Burke is on his own crusade to change the world. Something has to give and Enoch is currently losing. But I have the feeling he loves the attention, as he can play the martyr like Christ himself.
We'll not have facts and logic around here.