I wonder how this will work out for him
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Almost 15 years of their hateful vitriol.
When they attacked David Norris, Civil Partnership and Marriage Equality homophobicly. Its all out there in the public domain.
First time I’ve heard it, they are as mad as a bag of frogs. Why couldn’t they say they were related? They didn’t know if something was illegal but was moaning about it just in case!
How anyone gives them airtime is beyond me - I’m not saying they can’t believe what they want, regardless of how nuts its is (IMO), but why give them air to increase their mania. It’s not healthy.
You're absolutely gas. You really should mention what sort of timescale you'll accept as being within what you'll accept. As far as the "nothing to do with the current case" - You should really specify that as well.
Will I do it for you?
Where's the details of this hatred and vitriol that say the Burkes have directed at the LGBT+ community since June 2022, and specifically with regards to the current case?
Is that what you're looking for?
You asked, it was provided. But carry on defending them.
Shock! horror! People enjoy the schadenfreude of despicable people who hold despicable views getting their comeuppance.
They never apologised or admitted they were wrong for equating homosexuality with pedophilia and all their actions since then indicate they still likely hold these views so how are people wrong to still hold them in low regard and enjoy when their actions have consequences? Why in your opinion should they be forgiven and their previous actions ignored?
Its under "Opposition to.gay mural"
OK fair enough. Though that predates and nothing to do with the current case between Burke and the school.
So this puts the nasty comments people are making here against the Burkes in a greater context. It's as much a case of putting the boot in on account of previous sins. A bit of good old biblical retribution.
Yep.
Pending appeal.
Looks like the brother is a bit of a trend setting influencer, this was in Dunnes today, piles and piles of plastic boxes as far as the eye can see.
And that is exactly what Burke is trying to do with your support - change someone values.
There is no appetite to remove religion from education because it might cost a few votes.
Burkes would know all about piling on easy targets, targeting a trans kid for their hate.
In any other profession employees have freedom of religion, the vast majority of teachers don't and can be fired (or not hired) on religious grounds quite legally, yet the teaching unions have no interest in doing anything about it. It's bizarre in what is supposed to be a pluralist republic, and the fact the taxpayer is paying the wages makes it even more bizarre.
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I'm still assuming that he knows if he's creating a man or a woman though.
Do they? Explain what they're at then, when they "create" someone who is born intersex.
Both name and pronouns.
Things can change after they are initially created. DaCor created this thread about young Enoch landing back into school and he couldn't have predicted or stopped it turning into a discussion about if God knows if creating a man or a woman!!!!
I honestly think its mad that you could think there's a God, that creates us, but for some reason, he couldn't create transgender individuals.
Would be fairly confident that he appears at the school again on Monday.
I'd assume he'd know what he was creating.
Seems you've made your mind up that his dismissal is unfair, on what grounds?
I honestly don't think this theological chat belongs here 🤷♂️
If there is a God, I think it would be mad to assume you know any of their motivations.
That would be here:
I'm from Castlebar. These loopers were always in Main st every Saturday back in the 90's doing the homophobia is a sin, you're going to hell judgy nonsense they're always at.
And they have damn all support in Mayo. They're hated in the county.
Shocked you didn't do a google search before looking for people to elaborate. Apart from the college incident there are more very accessible online if you search. They have been at the forefront of protests for years in more towns than Castlebar and try to overshadow pride events regularly with these protests.Getting boring at this stage.
Does anyone know if the school's request was:
1) call student by this name
2) call student by these pronouns
3) Both of the above
If the request was just to call student by a specific name it's slightly different to a request to use different pronouns.
Burke was on a hiding to nothing with his behaviour towards the then principal at the school event. I think he may have had a case (legally) to not abide by the request and remain in employment, had he not behaved like this.
(Incidentally, I don't agree with Burke's philosophy.)
There's also an ever growing collection on the families Wikipedia page
One I was looking for, but can't locate at the moment, is where the mother and Enoch phoned into a radio station and got caught live on air, was a funny one when they tried denying being related
@Furze99
"Where's the details of this hatred & vitriol that you say the Burkes have directed at the LGBT+ community? Please elaborate..."
As someone who has staunchly defended the Burkes right from the beginning, you'd think maybe you would have researched the people you're defending a bit better?
Or are you actually going to claim now that you've been unaware all along of their history of anti-lgbtq campaigns over the years and especially where they attempted to link homosexuality to paedophilia?
Here's one article on the subject:
Looking at the back page of Enoch's book, published by Burke Publishing, he lists a Bachelor of Theological Studies (TNARS).
A bit of googling suggests that was The North American Reformed Seminary, an unaffiliated online school. It seems to no longer offer courses.
This seems to be something someone who wanted to become a pastor in American style evangelical churches would pursue.
Enoch seems to have dropped the TNARS from the description on the Amazon page.
He could call himself a pastor or preacher without any qualifications presumably but you would generally hope to have more than your own family in the congregation.
From the article: https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/circuit-court/four-siblings-lose-challenge-over-ban-from-membership-of-nuig-societies-1.4735759
"They also distributed flyers against gay marriage which implicitly connected gay marriage to paedophilia and incest."
How would you describe that?