'Poland are invading us' is a bit of a hard sell to the Russian public.
'Germany is trying it again' will activate the nation however.
In any case its easy to talk big when you're not on the continent, where troops can freely move.
Germany has to avoid causing a massive war on the continent. US has Mexico to worry about. UK basically nothing, island.
There is already a massive war on the continent. Jesus.
You mean more can't come. We've reached capacity, oh the shame.
Yeah, we're neutral as regards nato. Best decision ever.
Thats not massive.
Neutral does not mean NATO. mask slipping.
It's made a list.
21st century. So, its on a list since 2000. Its 2 places up from the massive war that was "the war against boko haram".
Well Jesus.
I'm not sure what your first few points are, however I will let you in a little secret.... Ukraine is the one trying to avoid a massive war on the continent.
I'd actually say it's already a massive war, 2nd largest army in the world from the largest country in the world, waging war on the largest country in Europe, genocide and all.
Germany or any other country dithering and delaying and not sending arms to help Ukraine will cause the 'massive war on the continent'. Some people fail to see that appeasement doesn't work with dictators.
Are you seriously suggesting russias mobilisation plans are not massive, Meat waves will not do much but 500k soldiers is no small number.
At least you don't consider it a Special Military Operation, I guess.
anti-nato stance noted. like ok that means something?
we had nato over recently? right? ok.
what does any of this mean?
I didn't know about Ireland being in a nato battle group.
This is all very secondary.
HQ has changed that recently. Leader mentioned war did they not.
lol and we get an answer on everyone's lips "Very Secondary" 🤣
Germany is trying to avoid such numbers.
Ukraine is not a massive war. Not by the scale of what it could potentially turn into.
Do you want to see such a war?
Neither does Germany, Europes key power (along with France).
So, Germany moves carefully.
While azzhole tabloid readers shout and boo, from behind the sea, far from the continent.
Comrade explain to the rest of the class how russia will project power passed Ukraine. Nukes is it been a day since they were mentioned.
Hey, talk to me directly if you have a pair. No need to act like a whispering old lady.
There are 750m people on the european continent. The Ukraine war is not massive. Not by proportion, not by history.
No, why would I.
Well I imagine Germany probably is quite interested in avoiding escalation to the point of nuclear detonation on the continent, yes.
Hang on a second.... what's your gripe with Ireland, UK, USA being a sea away? people have been protesting in Germany about Germany not allowing countries to donate their tanks to Ukraine. France already said they were donating a light tank also the fist IFV. Is Russia gonna nuke us all now?
Poland donated hundreds of T72's. FFS the amount of arms Ukraine has received, they could invade pretty much any other European country (airforces excluded) but Leopard tanks will cause WW3?
Challengers seem immune to nuclear war odd that. All the other MBT same. Do only German Tanks cause Nuclear war ?
It's actually the Russian war. Ukraine did not invade Russia. Don't go victim blaming, it's the lowest of the low.
Overly complex language using words not necessary are a key give away. Tones of bots have been caught out that way.
I think I may have cracked it. Wasn't Merkle afraid of dogs and when she first met Putin he purposely had a dog with him?
Maybe, just maybe Putin was attacked by a leopard at a zoo or something and that will trigger him?
If that's the case then I withdraw my criticism of Germany not supplying tanks.
Its unsurprising that you're a bit lost. For a few reasons.
The discussion has digressed into sub-points about sub-points.
You call it a massive war, fair enough. I don't, based on the comparative numbers of the world wars, and other European conflicts.
I wonder how you might describe the world wars. Mega-super-giga massive perhaps.
When trying to avoid ... a larger scale conflict ... on a continent which you live on, its best to avoid rushing in.
Especially when there's a nuclear armed elderly dictator involved.
Now I'll try to refocus the conversation a bit. (probably in vain, with some of the triggered loons in here).
It's the largest war in Europe since WW2 simple.
Yuck.
That is so lame.
So now I'm blaming Ukraine, because I said 'the Ukraine war' to describe a war ... in Ukraine.
That is some weak, tedious shyte if I've ever seen it.
fuking hell.
oh that stinks.
Em..... I'd describe the World Wars as..... World Wars. It's pretty self explanatory.
Unless you're alien and you think it means different worlds at war, but we would call that War of the Worlds actually. Or we will at some point in time.
Hasn't been this much shelling since WW2, hasn't been this much dead since WW2, hasn't been this many war crimes since WW2 on 'the continent' as you like to say.
I agree the no tanks is not just a German thing, on fears of escalation is appeasement to the aggressor whatever way its dressed up.
Russians are moving quicker now to beat the weapons already promised so training on these Bradley's etc must be stepped up.
While painfully slow it probably all that Ukraine can support while having very long active battle fronts to protect and we don't know how bad logistically their infrastructure effects this.
Next 2 months will be all about not letting Russia to get near karmatorsk their next levelling target.
russia have nothing they have a PMC that's trying to carve out an area. The head guy cannot stay out of the sights for long. What if the russinas cut funding merks will walk. Regular russian conscripts need a gun the the back same for the PMC. I think the main guy is due for a visit to a window or some tea. Once he is gone they will collapse.
Not quite there yet. You seems to forget about Yugoslav wars.
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