Again that seems to be promised not delivered. The site I linked says otherwise and is pretty reputable.
So I posted another user that Germany has sent the second most military aid in the world after the US that it was on the bbc tonight.
You quote me saying no they aren’t.
I reply with a link to the bbc news video stating Germany is 2nd
You reply no. Then insinuate a conspiracy to deflect from you being wrong and are now running with it.
Imagine being so insecure that you just can’t admit you got it wrong you have to be childish and make stuff up. You sound like Kelly Anne Conway with your alternative facts lol
Well sorry, all the deflecting in the world won’t change a thing. Here’s a link to you being wrong again. Skip to 4.46
Well said. There is an awful lot of horse s**t spouted on this thread about who is helping and how, and who is allegedly not! Who kept Ukraine in ammo and diesel in the early months of the war (hint not the US, UK, nor Germany). A huge amount of good stuff is happening under the radar or out of the media's view
As I said alternative views.
We have a long enough list of people who come from the same forum spouting the same old I'm here to correct people .
Yeah No.
It’s not a view it’s a fact so bbc news is wrong and you’re right ok. Btw I think Germany should should send tanks to Ukraine and can do more to help.
And the narrative is Germany is evil/useless constantly on here and do nothing when they’ve taken in over 1 million refugees and sent the 2nd most in military aid in the world after the US. I couldn’t even give 2 flying Shiites about Germany it’s the constant nonsense spouted in that regard that just needed corrected. You’re wrong just get over it, it’s funny how when pointed out that you’re wrong you double down and try to insinuate some conspiracy. Laughable, pathetic yet predictable.
I'd say that the overriding consideration at the moment is to save Ukraine and defeat Russia, at all costs literally. If Ukraine loses, and is taken over by Russia, the west and US etc. can forget about any payment of any kind. Whatever kind of financial "Package" that will be put in action, is even now is most likely being discussed, but its not even remotely a case of weapons being withheld because of a cash or payment issue. Imagine the massive cash input during the Marshall Plan after the second world war, which turned two destroyed country's into success story's after the war. Something similar to that will be put in place I imagine , ( but this time, only one Country will benefit, )
Yeah Ukraine aren’t winning this war.
It’s clear to see politics and greed will see to that.
Never again…. how ironic.
What's with the alternative views and the weather forum's
Not true.
Doesn't fit the narrative on here ,
Oh another one of those ...
surprise
"Because today's decision is a "note in the history book." As the new RU offensive will be successful, DE will have to take co-responsibility on the chest""Associations with the Second World War and the Ribbetropes/Molotovs will appear imho not only in Poland, but also in the Balts or Nordics"
The damage being done by Scholz to Germany's reputation cannot be underestimated, and it will take years to get past. In an existential war for their brother nation, the Poles, Baltics etc see Germany choosing Russian friendship over Ukrainian lives.
This fellow is Professor of international relations in Krakow, Poland's most prestigious university.
It's coming to a stage where their will be a complete breakdown in relations between the Scholz Govt and their immediate Eastern neighbours.
Just a question, the military equipment the UK sends, are Ukraine paying now or in the future for it. Or is that cost born by the UK
oh. my. good. god.
bbc not self sucking for once.
get the calendar. mark it down.
Military aid as I said
BBC news from tonight
Skip to 4.46
Germany is 2nd
It's not that they don't think they can win the war but more that they want to keep their options open. In typical German fashion they want to run with the dogs and píss with the pups. The only thing that matters to them is tje German economy and especially their big businesses. They'll be back licking Russias arse for fossil fuels before the Ukrainians can organise a victory parade whilst at the same time smooshing ukraine for rebuilding contracts.
Are we including money from Germany rather than Equipment.
2nd actually. Was on bbc news tonight. I know it doesn’t fit the narrative on here but facts are facts. Skip to 4.46
They will need it. russia is about to unleash the battle mechs anytime now their just pretending to have crap equipment.
How did you know that, thats classified information?
Could the Ukrainans already be being trained on that equipment on the sly?
So that if/when it is announced, they can be shipped in and put into action right away?
If Scholz can hold another few weeks, it will be May before they can be on the field and gives Russia a chance to get its Spring offensive in to place and on the move before it.
The pro Ukraine States need to act quickly and thwart their plan.
Just to clarify, its Ukraine that has relied on the US, not Europe (whole).
I dont see how Spain, for example, is supposed to be "relying on the US".
Ukraine may be part of continental europe, but its not whats refered to in the political sense as Europe. No more than Canada is what we commonly mean when we say America.
Russia is getting a beat down by Ukraine. So i dont see how there can be any perceived reliance on the u.s. by eu countries, bar maybe estonia, latvia, and lithuania.
After the US ,UK other EU States ie Poland the Germans are 4th on the list
Don't know if true but would be a sensible step. It will take 6-8 weeks or more to train so hopefully they can get it sorted well before that.
After the US, Germany has sent the most military aid to Ukraine. They’ve taken in over 1 million refugees from Ukraine.
Interesting if true.
Germany likes it's economy the way it has been setup this war has put a spanner in the works for that. If they could get away with it they would still be buying russian Gas.
People are right to be focusing on Germany.
It's a war in Europe, Europe should be able to sort it out and not be constantly relying on the US.
Germany seem to be happy to take the lead in other European matters but seem to be showing none here.
U.S sanctions wagner pmc!
If Russia is declared a terrorist state many of the links with Russia will become illegal and they will have to cut the ties.
I wager the UK has been thinking ahead when training Ukrainians. Train them on Everything possible within reason. Otherwise the challengers would be of no use so they must already have been trained.
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