If they are on College Rd they would fall under the Cross City Link project rather than this one no?
Good to hear but Cpo's will affect house owners and business owners on the college road end of the bus corridor.
There was plans in the early 00's for the development of a promenade stretching from the old pier at murrough to Ballyloughnane and 3 hotels and housing along seafront, GK was the company involved if I recall correctly.Also included road bridge over railway line at murrought house.
It would be nice to improve the bus stop outside of GMIT. There is a lot of buses especially on a Friday that stop there so proper facilities would be a great addition.
Otherwise it looks good.
AFAIR that was a long term plan anyway ( Merlin Entrance) when they put in the lights in at Galway Crystal, but I think moving the gate got scuppered by people not wanting to cut down the trees to allow this happen.
I think the exit of Merlin Hospital should be moved up to the junction at Galway Crystal and a tunnel should be built under the railway line at Murrough House to open up those lands for development. That new exit from the hospital can move along the tree line as much as possible and come in at the new Ambulance Base. Close of old exit.
From commentary elsewhere, the CPOs are limited to narrow strips of green space from non-residential properties. No buildings or private gardens are to be impacted.
Access to the legal system is a right for all regardless of the project. That being said legal actions taken to stop CPO's rarely succeed. Maybe this will be the same, maybe it'll be different, time will tell
I’m not on about the merits (which I see), I’m on about the people (which we all should know seeing what gets objected to in this city). The only thing that gets things built in Galway is a lack of haters. If this impacts one garden then that could set it back years through courts.
Subject to planning approval, BusConnects projects will happen regardless.
The benefits of them are simply too great and it makes zero sense to not do them.
I’m not a fan of either/or-ing the hated ringroad/cycleway and other improvements like this. In my mind it’s all good, but of course the hate (which we don’t need to go over) of dfferent sides to different things means things like the ring road & cycleway don’t get over the line.
Question now is who could hate this enough to stop it? Because it doesn’t take much to stop public works building in Galway.
Pauline O' Reilly talking about it here, though it's more a discussion about the general traffic situation then the specifics of the Bus Connects.
Hard to believe we're only starting to try and get this over the line in 2022. I am very much coming around to the idea that there's been a massive over-reliance on the bypass. For one of Ireland's main cities, public transport and infrastructure for same/active travel is truly abysmal.
I think CPO's are a given for projects like this, couldn't tell you where though.
Will there be much CPO’s / land aquisition delays on the Dublin Road corridor?
I had a look at the vid Dacor posted earlier, and while I was contributing to the slow crawl of traffic out that way this evening, I can’t see how all those lanes will fit along the route, even if they are narrowed down to a bare 2.5m wide each.
"30mm DENSE MACADAM ASPHALTIC CONCRETE"
Thanks - sounds like it'll be smooth so; perfect.
I believe its tarmac, but full details are on the page below if you want to go digging
https://www.galwaycity.ie/millerslane
Anyone know what type of surface they're going for on the updated Millars Lane? Smooth tarmac or gravel?
thanks DaCor, it's a very well done consultation & fly thru. these virtual rooms are great, and this one worked flawlessly on mobile. just left general feedback since I don't live near and rarely travel the route.
In Roscam, the newer estates allow access to the Coast Road so they would probably just go through there and join at the lights.
Dublin rd upgrade going to public consultation
BusConnects Galway: Dublin Road - Non Statutory Public Consultation
BusConnects Galway: Dublin Road is a continuous 4km transport corridor which starts east of Moneenageisha Junction to Doughiska Road Junction and includes significant landmarks and trip attractors along the route.
The proposed transportation corridor is a high quality pedestrian, cyclist and public transport facility which will balance transport needs with the unique sensitivities of the local environment.
Feedback on the emerging preferred option is now invited as part of the second non-statutory public consultation on the BusConnects Galway: Dublin Road proposals.
The Consultation period is from Friday 13th January 2023 to Friday 10th of February 2023 online at www.bcgdublinroad.ie
An in person consultation will be held on Monday 23rd January 2023 15:00 – 19:00
in the Renmore Community Centre.
Barry Transportation (the designers) together with Galway City Council representatives will be available in Renmore Community Centre on the day to explain the scheme and answer any questions/queries that the public may have.
The design team can be contacted by email info@bcgdublinroad.ie or phone on 1800 911 090. You can book a meeting with a member of the team through the virtual room.
Project Website linked below
Theres one of those virtual info rooms on the site where you can explore all the project info and make a submission
5 min video giving a flyover of the route
There's a lot to like and some niggly bits I don't like. For example, the bit between Doughiska/Roscam junction and the coast road junction is the only bit without a bike lane on both side, meaning anyone coming from Roscam has to cross over to use a bit of a 2 way bike lane, then cross back over again as it reverts to a one way bike lane. Its a 500m section and I can't understand why the bike lanes are not on both sides on this section. the space appears to be there unless there is something I am missing. See below
One thing I do like is its the first project that looks to be incorporating some kind of protected junctions in its design. Its not a brilliant design, but its not bad either.
I would encourage everyone to make a submission
An example of whats planned
Update from GCC posted on Facebook on the Millars Lane upgrade works
Millers Lane Update January 2023
The Millers Lane upgrade project is progressing well on the ground. Its completion will provide an urban permeability route in the Knocknacarra area, linking Rahoon Road and Kingston Road.
The upgrade will support permeability into adjacent estates, providing off-road walking and cycling routes for residents. Millers Lane will link into the wider Galway City Cycle Network, supporting travel by bike beyond the Knocknacarra/ Rahoon area.
Progress update
Laneway paving works on the Northern leg of the lane will commence in the coming week with lighting and landscaping to follow shortly afterwards.
Civil works on the Southern leg of the laneway will commence in the coming weeks, with the lane closed to the public for 6 to 8 weeks while construction works are completed.
Works to bring drainage and utility services across the Western Distributor Road will occur early Friday morning 13th January, starting at 3am, with works to be completed prior to the morning rush hour/school traffic.
An additional pedestrian crossing is been incorporated into the project scope on the Rahoon Road to complement the permeability route.
The project is programmed to be completed in March 2023.
Exactly - efficiency but also to give people the real choice. That has been lacking for decades here.
If we had the modal share our towns and Citys had back in the 70/80's we would be doing very well.
i'm cool with that.
Not everyone has to shift and no forcing required. Just create a system that favors the more efficient forms of transport within the city and provide everyone an easy means to access them and the rest will take care of itself. If people want to stick with the car, that's perfectly fine, but they should have lower priority around the city.
"County Cousins"
"Apocalyptic nonsense"
Not rising to it lads. No interest. Neither wadabouting nor quoting two countries who were able to do what they did without the hilly landscape, Onshore winds, and history of force rural clearances by landlords that this country endured, isn't a viable response to ,say, the "Salthill Sundays" cohort to give an example.
There's people not on board for Modal shift. and It will take authoritarianist measures for them to adopt it.
Yes, it makes me so sad how authoritarian the Netherlands and Denmark had to become to achieve their current modal shares. The gulags there for recalcitrant drivers are a humanitarian tragedy.
No, wait, surprise surprise, your 'analysis' is total codswollop, as usual. Car ownership in both countries is higher than in Ireland but a much lower percentage of those cars are driven into city centres and a much higher percentage of journeys are taken by means other than cars. Anyone who wants/needs to drive somewhere can still do so but the number who chose alternatives is high. There are real world examples of how to achieve a changes in modal share, with decades of real life data, so why you feel the need to invent some apocalyptic nonsense is beyond me.
Will this shift be equitable? City folk having to put up with pollution, noise and congestion from vehicular traffic of the County Cousins.
Rurban is the biggest issue I see for Galway. Rural living and urban lifestyle. We have this ribbon rural development around the City in all directions but people's work and lifestyle is in the Galway Urban area is going to be very difficult to disentangle in the years. The neglect of our Galway County towns the past 3 decades has been a big issue in this, I really think should be far more focus on developing the towns around the County. Increase services in those towns in a big way and drastically increase the public transport provision from these towns before going down the P&R from the outskirts of Galway City.
Or drive to the park and ride and get the bus the final leg of your journey for 30min door-to-door.
Like my example where an hour door to door by private becomes three with 1.5km on foot by public, the least resistance wpuld have to become “arrest for driving an unlicenced vehicle” or “legally allowed to get to my destination”.
People will generally pick the path of least resistance. If it's faster and easier to get the bus then that's what people will go for. Specially if it means they could drop an expensive car or two off the household costs
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