America has administered its first Lethal injection of 2023 to a transgender woman.
Why is a first world country still putting its citizens to death, particularly using a one drug method
But trans people don’t believe they’re someone they are not. They don’t subscribe to the gender assigned to them and seek another or go the non binary route.
you my friend are confusing gender and biological sex. Read the paper from 2001 on the subject to understand why you are wrong.
Also, different poster, but equally as stupid, your nationally is absolutely not fixed and you certainly could move to China and speak Chinese and if granted citizenship call yourself Chinese.
being tied to a particular nationality is rather down to the citizenship entitlements you hold in the country.
However if a white person wanted to call themselves a black person, they’re just an idiot because biology isn’t up for discussion.
So to summarise, biological sex and gender are NOT the same thing, you can be Chinese if the government will grant you citizenship, you’ll never be black because it’s biologically implausible. Unlike transitioning there’s no medical or any other way in which you can change your skin colour, there is, however hormonal and surgical procedures to change your bodies biology to some degree. That’s the other major difference.
Of course why would we worry about silly things like “science” and “facts”, that would just make all your claims bollocks and no fun then. Sure, if we do it that way, how are you gonna tweet at trans people that you identify as a Samsung QLED TV.
People who don't agree that transwomen are literally women are not denying the existence of trans people - that line is such bull. Disagreeing with is not the same as denying the existence of, ffs.
As a woman I find it offensive when people tell me transwomen are the same as me. But I don't deny that they exist. Of course they exist.
Yes, sex and gender are different, yet there's conflation of the two by those who also recognise the difference. It makes no sense. Woman is not a gender, it denotes biological sex.
@[Deleted User] puts it far more eloquently than I ever could;
In your opinion how many biologically intact men do you think is safe in the women’s prison?
People who believe that they/are pretending that they are a sex other than what they are do exist. They always have. How is that denying their existence?
So guilty and gone.
The criminals accountability for taking human life and been accounted for. and there is zero danger of re offending.
as it should be.
Yes I support capital punishment. because properly instituted it is effective, ie prevents re offending and if used swifter would provide the deterrent that it doesn't at present.
how would you feel about is someone you loved was killed by someone who had done time for a past murder or rape and been released with a light sentence ?
I am "literally" not.
I am disagreeing with an individual's self identification, due to the fact that they are identifying as something they are provably not.
That does not mean they do not exist.
No he is not ,
A trans person is someone who thinks they are the opposite another gender he knows people like this exist , He is merely saying that is there belief is not factual ,
I don't believe there was a Jesus who was the son of god, that does not mean i think Christian's do not exist
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The number of transwomen in prisons completely screws up the criminality statistics. Look over here, there are more women committing crimes than men now. Just because a male criminal identifies as a woman.
I presumed you had some actual figures to back up such a big statement. clearly you dont.
I am. Any proof that I am not? the subject of this thread is a man pretending to be a woman ostensibly to get a pass on execution. He didn't and that's good. Not that I support capital punishment, I don't, but I don't support males in female spaces. You just have to look at the males trying to infiltrate female categories of sport too. Must have been cack as a male in the male category, but will out do the females because, you know, hormones and chromosomes never lie.
Ah right, I thought you were posting an actual informed opinion.
One is one too many in female prisons. I'm not concerned if they are in male prisons.
You are literally denying the existence of trans people.
In a democracy, you actually do.
I don’t for the most part agree with capital punishment.
but individuals who commit certain crimes that enable themselves to be convicted of them and open to punishment such as xx years incarcerated or indeed capital punishment, should not be available to swerve justice based on gender, sex, religious beliefs, sexual orientation, or indeed whether they are transgender individuals…or however they may choose to ‘identify’.
transgender people want ‘equality’ ? They need to accept that they don’t get to pick and choose what facets of their existence they want to just be equal…. and then what facets they should then be treated preferentially. It’s a farce. Equal is equal.
How many transwomen in prison are we talking about?
Live as whatever you want to live as. Live as a woman when you are actually a man. Live as a baby girl in nappies when you are actually a 34 year old man. Pretend you are a dog, you identify as a dog and run around your own back garden on all 4s.
(These are all new groups demanding recognition at the moment. New splinter groups every day emerging from the LGBTQ+ community).
But when you tell me that I have to pretend that I agree that you are scientifically biologically factually and obviously other than what you actually are, then the answer is no. That’s my life. Science, facts and reality.
I don’t disagree with anyone’s life.
Nobody can disagree with mine.
You absolutely do Andrew.
If someone 3ft 2" told me they were 6ft 6", I would be well within my rights to say they are wrong. I could prove it.
If a 24 year old tried to get onto a under 12's football team by claiming to identify as being 11 years old, I would be correct in saying they are not. I could prove it.
If a male human says they are a female, I am also correct in saying they are not. I could prove it.
That does not in ANY way deny their existence. It simply says that what they are saying is wrong. It's not hate.
But you are correct (albeit by mistake); being a man or being a woman is not a question or a debate. It's a fact.
No,
I am suggesting that there is a problem as regards accountability for taking a human life.
A judge and jury gets to carry on as before if they kill an innocent person.
The person that kills another without adhering to the law can have his life terminated, whether the killing is an error or not.
I guess if people were accountable for their decisions, then mistakes might be fewer?
Anyway, to answer your question, guilt or innocence plays no part in my abhorrence of the death penalty. I would hope my stance remains firm if someone close to me is murdered, I am fairly sure it would.
Why do you support capital punishment, what will it gain?
You love an aul change of the goal posts don't you ,
You don’t get to disagree with someone else’s life. Their life is not a question or a debate topic. It’s their life.
"Hate"......
Where is the hate?
It's not hateful to believe in facts.
This is why people, who speak like you do, make a mockery of terms like "hate speech".
Disagreement is not hatred.
I can remember Renee being in the news, possibly UK news rather than RTE but certainly in the news consumed by my family and lots of Irish families at the time.
I don't remember the far right extremists either. I'm sure Renee Richards transgenderism was on the tips of everyones tongues in Ireland in the 1980s, or were people more concerned with trying to get a job?
Perhaps you didn’t notice because you hadn’t listened to loads of far right extremists telling you to hate on trans people at that time?
Turns out women were the villains all along! :D
I really don't remember any discussion of transgenderism in the 1980s to be honest. If you can be born in the wrong body, surely the brain is in the wrong body? Are you your brain or your body or perhaps both? Is anyone ever born with the wrong brain.
I think the title of this thread is taking the focus off the topic.
But I think the most damning aspect it has opened up another can of worms.
Does ANYONE think that a man was found guilty of raping and murdering a woman, and then a woman was executed for that crime? If so, please expand.
(I do have to laugh at one of the news report quotes....
“She always had a smile and a dad joke,” Hicklin said. “If you ever talked to her, it was always with the dad jokes.”
Surely it should be mam jokes)
It is happening in Scotland as we speak, and there is uproar about it. There are transwomen prisoners in female jails in Ireland.
Biological sex and X and Y chromosomes are the truth, not someone saying they are something they can never be in reality, only in their heads.
Many cases of trans are ASD. I think it is some sort of mental problem myself. It certainly isn't a normal thing anyway. Fair play to those who transition quietly and without fuss, and who do not commit crimes and just live their lives in peace. The rest can be attention seeking TRAs who will stop at nothing until everyone is silenced. The Emperor has no clothes though.
The 1980s called for you, they want their terminology back.
If it's okay to say born in the wrong body, is it okay to say, born with the wrong brain?
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