If factories didn't give bonuses pre june they'd have fewer cattle. There has to be some incentive to those early suppliers
Lambs are the same, prices reduce from June on to discourage a glut in august and september. Producing lamb and beef in july to september is a handy number and everyone would be doing it if the price didn't fall after june
One thing alarming when you look at the trends there is that 2019 and 2020 are on lower end of scale regarding prices.
Yet as we all know the price of inputs definitely would not have been cheaper in those years compared to a few years before that.
2013 was a great year price wise. Inputs have risen a lot in the 10 years
Could be like the moneyball of beef but it might turn you off farming
The calculator is bad for motivation.
100% it’s like the satisfaction of working outside with good looking stock is factored in to the price without adding to the cheque
Unfortunately true and certainly taken in to account by the factories.
I wouldn't say it out loud at the off-farm job but no machine learning, big data, artificial intelligence, etc. will ever identify what lads working with cattle prices everyday see and smell.
The only game is the long game, although I'm sure the house (factory) always wins. That would be some conclusion to include in the academic paper I'm supposed to be writing...
What's the price of organic beef, and organic Angus , organic hereford, organic continental . Asking for a friend😁
i think around 5.60 including bordbia bonus etc.
I have heard they using a grid grading system now. The start of penalising as supply increases. Price will come under pressure in 3 years time when there are 2-3 yr old grass cattle fully organic coming to the market potentially.
Are factory's killing next week
Yeah Wednesday and Thursday anyway
Wednesday to Friday inclusive I would say
I was offered 4.70 base end of last week to kill today. I reckon they will be 4.75 available if
Anyone hear of any quotes?
I would have thought they were much closer to € 5.00 / kg base
€4:95 a kg base last week in liffey meats bjd. Heifers.
That is about right flat price 0= to R plus. Should be 5.85 in New Year. Flat regardless of breed or sex. Have to be QA. 18 c penalty for O minus same for certain weights. Seperate price for FR. Used to be had to be special arrangement to kill FR organic etc. Chatting to a lad €185 or so premium on cattle killed organic before Christmas v ordinary.
Tell that agent to take a run and jump for himself! €4.70 was freely available a month ago. Should be touching €5 base by now.
Edit; Just seen runwithme’s post, that sounds more like it.
Got 5€ base for steers the week before Xmas.
Midlands.
There's always a lull in january though
They didnt drop 30 cent in a couple of days. He needs to price around or go to the mart
Week 3 in January factory cattle will be scares I think. Cost of meal has put off alot of the smaller finishers. I don't see the meal trucks on the road as much as other years. Saying that there was good silage made last summer. Was chatting a guy lately he reckoned he will finish suckler continental heifers on silage only and all under 22 months old. He said they were not big animals and would be in or around the 280kgs DW.
Killed bulls last Monday. Agent rang Wednesday to see if I had any more ready for this week. Can’t see much of a lull for a while.
He’s in for disappointment I’d say. Unless they were fat coming in off grass it’ll be hard to get them fat if they are any way well bred.
A few kg a day wouldn’t break him.
How many days would continentals need meal for to put the required fat cover on?
Jasus they must be little runts altogether
60-80 days approx on continental heifers. Angus 40-60 days. All depending on condition and the quality of feeding in the diet.
Would 3kg a day be enough for the continentals?
I only ask as I am gone organic and considering reducing number of cows but carrying the calves to finish at 30months. Usually when we finish now it would be a bit younger at 20-24 months and they would get a nice bit of meal. 1/2+ per head is not feasible in organic. Our numbers are small and finishing small numbers is very time consuming in our current system.
Min of 1kg per 100kg LW. Short and snappy finish is the key. It's energy you need for putting flesh at fat down. If you could get your hands on some beet, it could work.
Heard from a neighbour entering organic that the price of organic ration is north of €950. It's the winter finish market for organic is going to be the pinch point. The grass trade in this sector will be flooded from July to November. A rotation of maybe 3-4acres of beet/red clover/ oats or barley could work. It's having control over this energy cost could be the key to making a few bob
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