Old thread seems to be permanently locked. It will be interesting if anything can come of this at last.
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Monsieur Gazeau , Sophie's uncle, now getting stuck into Bailey re the timing of when he knew who the victim was.
Unfortunately he is citing Cassidy and Caroline Leftwick, neither of whose testimony stand up to scrutiny;
Her body wasn't found for 2 weeks, the frosty weather prevented the decay.
However long the body was there before being discovered it was another 28 hours on top of that before the pathologist was at the scene.
Time is of the essence in collecting forensic evidence, some was collected from under Sophie's fingernails and there were hairs stuck by dried blood to one hand. These have been tested a few times over the years as advances in DNA testing has improved but have not been able to yield definitive proof, yet.
Wasn't there a case in Dublin where the murderer thought the DNA was decayed
Marilyn rynn case I think
from the Web
'Although foreign DNA may persist under fingernails in a harsh environment for up to 48 h [2, 11, 12], Matte et al. [7] found that even after the deliberate deposition of cellular debris through scratching, foreign DNA rapidly decays beyond 6 h.'
She was definately there more than 24 hours before forensics.
That's possible for sure. New technology allows DNA extraction from porous surfaces such as concrete blocks but if it's DNA under fingernails, well the technology to test that has been around for years.
Possibly because the sample may have not been sufficient with the technologies available until now
Even if it wasn't Baileys they could do a DNA sampling drive over such a low population area, and use forensic genealogy failing that.
Can a state pathologist confirm DNA being present? This sounds like Chinese whispers.
If the Gardai do indeed have DNA evidence scraped from beneath Sophie's fingernails, one would ask the question why they haven't compared it to Bailey's DNA before now. That would either rule him in or rule him out. I mean if it exists, it's existed for the last 26 years.
No, the lowest form is admitting to having committed the murder several times to several people and then claiming that was sarcasm.
Bailey.
Lowest form!
Sarcasm.
"Ah yeah, it's unlikely to be Bailey's, sure."
Cork talk
How could the DNA under the fingernails be connected to the recent activity on the scene?
If they've had this DNA all this time, and a sample of Bailey's, why is the connection only being made now?
You're not making sense ?
Btw I suspect bailey did it
Ah yeah, it's unlikely to be Bailey's, sure.
He's only the self confessed number one suspect that has no alibi for the time of the murder and the guy who has admitted to numerous people that he actually murdered the lady.
Unlikely to be his, okeydokey.
The Colin pitchfork case is interesting if they have DNA
Seems odd though bailey offering to provide samples and the gardai having DNA from her fingernails and no word on this whether he was eliminated or whatever
No idea what you mean by heavy lifting but yeah, it's confirmed by Lara Marlowe a journalist for the Irish Times who was one of the few people given a copy of the state pathologists report into the murder.
Most of the amateur detectives on here have failed to find the report she wrote after reading it even though it's been in the public domain since 2008. I put up a link to it a few days ago, if you're interested I'm sure you'll be able to find it.
Ya he probably can't be ruled out definitively
Don't they already have Bailey's DNA ? .Didn't he give a sample if I recall
Im not talking about a quick drive past though, oh so thats where it happened kindof way. You know the kinda crazies Im talking about.
On the face of it it looks like a very odd exercise by the Gardai.
But I doubt it's being done for the sake of something being seen to be done.
The previous generation of west Cork Gardai have (in my opinion much of it unfairly) been lambasted for their performance in this case.
I don't think the current generation want to be seen in a similar light.
Even though I know nothing about investigations or investigating there probably is some procedure or task that can be carried out to gather, or confirm, or clarify something related to the scene or existing evidence or something.
I really doubt they are doing this for show, but equally nothing may come of it.
Just out of interest, what makes these people "crazies"? It's human nature to be interested in things like that. For instance if I ever went to Dallas Texas the first and possibly only thing I'd be doing is going straight to Dealy Plaza. Does that make me crazy?
No. What I meant is that one of the crazies put something at the scene.
If there is a DNA match found it's unlikely to be Bailey's. It would have been found long since.
As for the DNA being "kept in safe keeping", what, like the gate, and Bailey's coat? seriously! The French team said most of the evidence bags had been opened and some left unsealed. The only way Bailey will be eliminated is if there is a safe conviction of the real killer. Until then, lack of evidence against him does not mean he is innocent, and from today's Indo;
"Seems pretty clear" doing a lot of heavy lifting there. Any of this confirmed?
I wouldn't be expecting results
These cold case lads are different gravy Deeec, I'd be expecting results and sooner rather than later.
Yes, hopefully the murderer will be brought to justice soon.
The Garda press conference last week and the 'mapping' of the site this week are just procedural. The Gardai are just doing it to keep Sophie's family happy - it's all about ' look we're really trying here'. Really they are no further on.
The press conference was particularly pathetic - they just needed to do it as it coming up to the anniversary of Sophie's death.
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