Oh good God no.
No. Just no.
For f**k sake. I wonder if they'll become pacifists too like Worf apparently does in the Picard trailer.
They really are just throwing shít at the wall.at this stage.
If we discount the cartoons, if only because animation tends to be looked down on by studios, Strange New Worlds increasingly feels like a total fluke.
I wouldn't worry too much. Michelle Yeoh's Section 33 show never saw the light of day, neither will this.
Everytime they delve deeper into the Borg they get crap
They show up in Voyager they get crap
We learn more about the Queen they get crap
They assimilate Jurati they get crap.
Not again. The line must be drawn here! This far and no further!
They were best left as a force of nature. Unknown origins, unknown purpose.
They just assimilate and move on.
@breezy1985 Not again. The line must be drawn here! This far and no further!
Having a Borg lead show would be a vary strange concept indeed? As the link mentioned: -
It could very well be these new Borg introduced in Star Trek: Picard that the potential series is meant to focus on. It seems likely Jeri Ryan could be a significant part of the show. We learned a few months ago that a solo series for Seven of Nine was in development, and it’s possible that project has morphed (or “adapted”) into this one.
Oh ****, oh **** no
They'd have to be the Jurati volunteer collective in the series, it'd be very hard to have your protagonist violently assaulting innocent people every week.
In some ways that kinda proves the point. They keep asking fire lit for a show I genuinely don't believe anyone outside of Paramount actually wants.
Makes you wonder what other concepts are in development there we don't know a out. Presumably they have something ready to replace Picard when it's done, for instance
I suspect these are shows no-one outside of Secret Hideout actually wants. Could be that their deal with Paramount requires a certain amount of material in the pipeline. I'm guessing the S31 show could only function so long in that role before they needed something new "in developement" to replace it.
This Borg show idea does reek of being a similar project to Section 31. No-one asked for it, no-one really wants it, but Kurtzman's people are probably going threaten us with it for years, like they did with S31. As far as a "Borg Show" is concerned, didn't we already get that? Following Season 4, Voyager essentially became the "Borg Show" with a Borg crew member and the Borg Queen setup as Janeway's arch-nemisis. They even ended the show with the Borg.
We really don't need a Borg Show.
Yeah maybe all these stories are just concept spitballs to Paramount executives to keep them satisfied that Secret Hideout are workshopping ideas and future shows. Keep the bosses happy, knowing half these ideas won't go past the Idea Stage.
I will die on this hill: The Borg were one of the greatest fictional "Villains" ever.
The concept was utterly terrifying.
No just no. Leave the Borg alone. Voyager done enough damage to there reputation as it is. I hope this so called Borg show never sees the light of day.
Classic Borg rank right up there in my mind as some of the best Sci-Fi horror monsters you can think of. I still remember vivid Borg nightmares from when I was younger. We peaked with First Contact and alas...I think you could only ever go so far before you ruin it.
It's kind of like Doctor Who over using the Daleks. In breif bursts they were a classic, truly dangerous villain who were (for their time) the stuff that would also fighten kids. Then they went and over used them, and the trouble is; The Doctor has to win, and defeating them so very often like that serisously defangs them as a threat.
I think the same happened with the Borg. Breif bursts like with BoBW or even Scorpion let them remain a dangerous monolithic threat. But being defeated so often as a Monster of the Week, defanged them just as badly as the BBC's Evil Pepper-pots.
I was going to make a joke that at least they'd only have one character to focus on but they abandoned even that aspect of the Borg early on with the Queen and stuff.
Secret hideout writing room
I was actually scared of them for a few years. Staying awake to watch the TNG repeat on weekdays did have its disadvantages.
In general about this Borg series I'm going to bring it up for probably the fifth or sixth time on this forum, they need an anthology series. A Borg-centric feature length episode could work, as could a Section 31, or any of a dozen other out there ideas that wouldn't carry a series. Unless they're striking them immediately they're building up a decent library of sets and other assets to make that kind of thing a less costly prospect.
There were those short episodes aired around Discovery season 2 or 3, a little anthology of stories from unrelated crews and characters - so there already is precedent for a show.
And Discovery itself was supposed to be an anthology show.
Oh god yeah of course, totally forgot that. Bryan Fuller n all. Wonder will we ever know what format the stories had In another universe...
The show would have been even darker, literally, cos according to Discovery the alt universe have more sensitive eyes lol 🤭🤣
That eyes thing makes so little sense it's crazy. Takes a seriously useless writer to think that up.
Also seemed very much forgotten for Empress Hitler Girlboss in season 2. Must have been a temporal change to the universe we didn't see like Rikers disappeared telepathic abilities.
I dont think I ever got past season 2 myself
"RIP Star Trek"
What a loser.
If he had said RIP Discovery. It have made sense.
But you're right. He completely wrong. Trek has not been in this strong position in years. Discovery, Picard, Strange New Worlds, Lower Decks, Prodigy and more on the way.
There are three critical and viewer lauded Trek shows (I think Prodigy has reviewed well?), Hardly a franchise in its death throes.
I think it might be that Rotten Tomatoes or "professional" critics that are dying out. Professional reviews for Lower Decks Season 1 - 47 (apt), season 2 -15, and season 3 - 5. For Picard season 1 - 254 , and season 2 - 94. From a non Star Trek series Jack Ryan Season 1 - 85 , season 2 - 27 , season 3 - 12. All three series took a pretty steep dive.
I think that's just down to the reality it's increasingly difficult for outlets to dedicate time to critically review every show, for every season. There are now four major streaming networks globally, more if we stick with the US.
I've noted how some of my usual outlets just drop a show for per-episode coverage - even otherwise lauded ones - out of nowhere and I think it's to give their journos the newer shows to cover. Including Discovery, which had episodic articles through season 3 but not season 4 IIRC.
Conversely those same outlets never bothered to cover shows like For All Mankind, which is the opposite problem of a good series that didn't get the professional coverage it deserved.
Does anyone actually use Rotten Tomatoes anymore other than to "prove" their preconceptions.
I gave up trusting those kinds of sites way back. Wasn't it The Dark Knight that was the top ranking movie of all time on IMDB before it even came out.
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