Old thread seems to be permanently locked. It will be interesting if anything can come of this at last.
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Total speculation here but I think if there were to be a row about a right of way, wouldn't a confrontation over the gate have kicked off pretty soon after a gate was installed across the right of way and not many months if not a year or so after it was installed?
I think that was her first visit that year, I could be wrong on that. If it was her first visit, could it have been the reason for the visit at that time of year
Wasn't there some fencing going on near the gate at the time?
I'm by no means saying what I think is right, it just makes the most sense to me. There are so many variables. Bailey is the perfect Patsy
I'll have to agree to differ with you regarding Alfie, I don't think he was the killer.
Rest assured no one else thinks what you are saying is right.
I would say there's quite a few, including the DPP
on what basis can you say that? genuinely.
no she didn't josephine is quoted as saying she was surprised as sophie usually had gifts for josephine's children. i cannor recall where j is quoted
This is from Killing Sophie
It would appear that Sophie stayed at home on Saturday morning and
did not leave the house until after lunch. Finbarr Hellen, Josephine’s
husband, saw Sophie’s car parked outside her house sometime between
12.00 p.m. and 1.00 p.m. Was there someone in Sophie’s house that
morning? He’s not sure but he thought he saw a shadow in the hallway.
Josephine Hellen had an interesting story to tell about that weekend. She
said that her husband Finbarr and son John were accustomed to go over
every day to feed the cattle near Sophie’s house. On that Saturday, the
21 December 1996, they went over sometime early in the day, with a
bale. Sophie liked John and Finbarr and she would always come out and
talk. She always brought John a present as well as the rest of the kids.
But, that weekend she never came out to talk.
we can only speculate! do you think it was Bailey?
Cheers for that input, it makes perfect sense that you disagreed with him about who was the actual murderer in a post you made 8 minutes prior to this one.
No!
who do you think is most likely then?
Stop a while and think now April and remember what you said;
It would explain why she didn't invite josephine hellen over as she ussually did
Sophie made two phone calls to Josephine Hellen on Sunday evening to arrange for Josephine to come to her house at noon on Monday
He does disagree with me - he's just saying that there are others that might agree. He clearly has an open mind, unlike you
You need to get Bailey out of your head.
On the number of blows thing the chief detective said this was clearly someone who had lost all control, intimating a lot of evidence of "overkill".
Thanks for that evaluation that makes no sense whatsoever.
State pathologist said the same thing but hopefully those trying to now resolve the case will ignore the evidence they have and read this thread.
Ok so, the fact that I believe it’s not Alfie, does not mean I think it has to be Bailey. You’re obviously as brainwashed and blinkered as all the other “ Bailey done it” brigade
Wisdom of crowds?
Maybe the attacker overdone it, and left Sophie in such a way, that were she to survive she would identify them. Then they would have to make sure that didn’t happen, hence the final coup-de-grace with the block.
Based on the recent Garda press conference I`d say there`s none. As for the DPP, they couldn`t even work out that Jules`s studio was a couple of hundred yards down the road from her house.
"Bailey is the perfect Patsy"
That's the thing, he was totally the wrong Patsy, when they failed to crack him they went to work on Farrell, Jules, all the freeloaders that went to France, Alfie, Leo, Bill fuller, your man with the bag of stash, the ones he " confessed to" etc. the whole thing became a farce. They should have just gone for the village idiot.
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That's very true. The whole Marie Farrell thing is another strange part in all this. She's obviously completely unreliable, but why? Is it attention or she actually covering for someone? This mystery man that she was supposed to be with has since deceased. Dead end (pardon the pun). I thought it was very strange as well in Sheridans documentary when they're both in the car, Sheridan says "you know that's the road to Sophie's house" and Farrell says something like "oh really I didn't know that". As if - what local wouldn't know that. She also ended up moving away from Schull. Was it because of guilt? Was she protecting her husband (who has had a few encounters of note himself). That aspect is all very strange.
It’s possible she didn’t know Sophie’s road, she had only been in Schull for about a year and lived about 5/6 miles away, they’d have moved in different circles.
I think she was just gullible/ vulnerable and was manipulated. She got carried away by the whole circus.
She gave three different names for her companion and a feeble effort was made to trace them, so feeble that the police probably knew they were fictitious.
They sold up and moved away up the midlands, citing police harassment after she withdrew her earlier statements.
She had only been in Schull for about a year? I know she's from Longford originally but I was under the impression that she was there a lot longer considering they ran a shop etc
On the Sheridan thing - he makes the point regarding Sophies house at Kealfadda bridge, the place where Farrell said she saw Bailey. So I don't believe for a second that she didn't know one road from there led to Sophie's house. She knew the importance of siting Bailey in that location.
Sophies house at Kealfadda bridge,
Sophie's house is not at Kilfadda bridge.
It's in the general vicinity, but still it's a few miles from it.
Kilfadda bridge is on the main road between Schull and Goleen, with the road to Sophie's house a smaller road off it.
She has to be lying when she said she wasnt aware that was the road to Sophies house. 25 years later and she still had'nt a clue where Sophies house was in relation to Kealfadda bridge sounds a bit far fetched. As chief witness ( as she was) you would at the very least think she would have had this information and have had knowledge of the location. More of Maries lies I think!
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