Old thread seems to be permanently locked. It will be interesting if anything can come of this at last.
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Just wondering on the diary, it would have turned up had she misplaced it so the likely scenario is that it was taken. A person whose advances were rejected would be unlikely to take it - would they even have known about it? Who else would have known that she had a diary that was worth taking?
Also allegedly missing is the small red hatchet that was kept inside the doorway. Did the killer go to the house, get the diary and hatchet and then return to further beat Sophie? Surely a crime of passion, if the killer was someone rejected, then they would have somewhat calmed down after walking up to the house and back so I'm finding it strange that they returned to her to continue the violence?
`Who would possibly want to shield Sophie's murderer??
A little harsh isn't it??
if she was found murdered at the house I might think differently but for it to be at the gate, a gate that defines one end of a right of way..... it seems like the obvious motive. it's probably been ruled out for reasons i'm not aware of but that's where my head is at for now
Every murder is different
I concur with the garda theory and also believe bailey likely did it
Agree. Most if not all of the incredible alternative theories put forward here are spurious. Smokescreens designed to deflect attention from the facts and evidence in an attempt to shield the violent and depraved criminal that murdered Sophie.
I think a land dispute is more likely than a rebuffed romantic approach
Taken overall, as an explanation for murder, the 'rebuff' angle on its own is an unlikely one too for a 'home' murder. There's usually more to it - married man hushing up an affair, or a loner who showed previous signs of obsession, or some element of a random predator she encountered.
So if another theory is not contradicted by the evidence, and can be made to fit with what little evidence we do have, then it seems valid to discuss it, albeit mentioning how improbable it is.
Sure weren't you in the same class - well the days you decided to show up anyway
correct - they are just used as shuttering
Masters in DIT
I was wondering what was behind the thousands of violent murders every week. It's all those rejections of misplaced romantic interest in the pubs and clubs around the country. 🙄
This attack is also unlikely to have taken place during daylight hours
Possible but unlikely , it looks like a nightime incident
Sure but looking at the overall picture and the ferocity of the attack
Other theories such as land dispute , hitman and random caller are unlikely
And what?
How many times does that turn out to be the explanation for a murder of a woman on her doorstep? It's already not the usual explanation - which is the person they lived with or married to, a serial killer, someone they were having an affair with who had a motive to hush her up. Or a robbery gone wrong.
There's no evidence here of sexual assault, which is another scenario which can lead to murder.
How many times would your "chances" turn out wrong?
So why can't this be one of those times?
How is that 'logical'?
A bit of logic needed here
Attractive french woman arrives at remote location before Christmas, found beaten to death at her gate
Chances are someone had encountered or seen her and took a misplaced romantic interest and turned up late at night inebriated
Other scenarios are much less likely to have occurred
Try breaking a concrete cavity block off a human's face and see how you get on.
Hollow blocks are used in retaining walls alright, but only as a housing for the reinforced concrete in-fill.
On their own in that situation they are as useful as plasterboard.
Probably the same place where he got his PhD in forensic criminology.
Where did you get your architecture degree?
anyone that specifies hollow blocks on their own in a retaining wall deserves it to come down on top of them. hollow blocks are only strong in compression. but i'm only an architect. i can't possibly compete with your degree in bullshit talk.
I've lifted, carried, stacked, laid and have had to split enough of them with a lump hammer and bolster to know that you won't damage one by hitting it against a human head.
They are used in the construction of high strength retaining walls and have a rating of 7.5 newton, the same as a 4 inch thick solid block. Try head butting one yourself and see how much lateral force you can muster up. Or maybe stop bluffing about subjects you have no clue about.
Tis a bit difficult to take someone seriously who quotes Trump in their bio.
Not hundreds or thousands of fractures thought
You've probably never handled one
Oh sweet baby Jesus.
A hollow block like that would probably split after 5 or 6 blows, especially if it was dropped. They're not very strong when a lateral force is applied.
According to this and other media outlets it is 50 different 'wounds' or 'injuries', of varying severity, which includes cuts from briars.
Iirc I read somewhere else that one single blow from the block could have caused multiple different injuries.
https://www.biography.com/.amp/news/sophie-toscan-du-plantier-murder
Ehhhhhh, okeydokey.
We'll leave it there so.
Fair enough so.
Elements of the report have made it into the public domain over the years and I`m pretty sure he said 50 fractures. That doesn`t mean 50 blows and the block further complicates that.
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