The key elements include six high speed charging hubs on motorways capable of charging eight vehicles simultaneously; 16 high speed charging hubs capable of charging four vehicles simultaneously; additional high power chargers at 34 current 50 kW locations; upgrading over 50 22 kW chargers to 50 kW, and replacing up to 264 locations with 528 charge points at the pre-existing pilot grade of 22 kW to next generation high reliability models.
More like 4 charging points and 2 marked spaces!!
Ecars also said no more chademo installs going forward at a recent energy conference
I think it's end of next year when they stop the CHAdeMO deployments. The chargers in Knocklyon are still covered up but look to be the exact same as Sundrive.
It's the end of next year (2023) so the first CCS only charger will be installed in 2024
I see comments on Facebook that to avoid overstay fee you need to stop your charge for 5+ minutes otherwise the overstay fee will still apply. I must get a second non linked account ..
Or you could just limit your charge to 45 minutes like a decent person would
What about at 3am, and you’re all by your lonesome, and you need more than the 37kWh a 50kW DC charger will output in that 45 minute period….. id be pretty pissed off sitting around waiting for that 5 minutes to pass just so I can start another charge so as to spare me the couple of euro overstay fee!!
if the eCars network was fit for purpose, they could change the overstay mechanism from 45 minutes (no matter what the circumstances), to 5 minutes after the car stops charging (either charge limit reaches or battery full).
Or Castlebellingham which is 4 marked spaces for one charger! 😂
I've seen a driver at Sundrive who got out at 44 minutes, disconnected with one eCars card and then immediately reconnected with a 2nd card. Life finds a way.
Came across this guy earlier. Charging on the 22KW side but parked in a disabled bay. No disabled badge displayed. Hopefully the warden will be along shortly and ticket them.
I know we were talking about disabled charging before (maybe not in here?) But this type of layout would be perfect if the charger had cables on both side. Disabled charging on one side and then regular charging spaces on the opposite.
Plug in on AC in that case, your charging speed will probably be the same at 80%+ SOC
Probably not all the cars charge as slow. Here it is an example. The red line I drawn to illustrate the AC charging. The other ones are from fastned and are very conservative as I have charged faster.
If Ecars was fit for purpose then a single 50kW charger wouldn't be considered state of the art
I am absolutely fine waiting 45 minutes at 3 in the morning but that extra 5-minute wait would be too much for me.
I'm at Sundrive charging.
I just got a spot as a Kona taxi was leaving. There was an ID4 taxi beside me which has just gone and an ID4 taxi took his spot. Another 2 Kona taxis, an ID4 taxi and an MG taxi have driven past and went on. There's a Peugeot van type taxi behind me waiting for me to move.
If you build it they will come!!
They need a shed load of these chargers within the m50.
Kona taxis?????.
I thought Hyundai literally exclude taxis from any warranty at all.
So surprised to see Hyundai taxi EVs.
Apologies I just googled the car. It was the E-Niro and not a Kona.
My own car doesn't hit AC charging speed until it's at 95%.
Wow that's pretty harsh, I get that a taxi would see a lot more use than a typical car, but a mileage based service interval should take care of that
I think the concern is that taxis may have far higher rapid charging than typical EV per kilometer covered. If taxi was shared by 2 drivers in shifts or owned by taxi company in 24/7 use, it may be rapid charged 2 times a day and some UK taxi companies have their own 50kW+ chargers and cooked the leafs batteries on early models with no cooling. Imagine a Dublin airport based taxi with non stop airport to city centre trips and then filling up on taxi only chargers at the airport. I am not saying that may taxis here would do this but often the battery warranty is not from car maker but battery maker, say Panasonic, and they want to reduce their risk of a claim. There were teslas with free supercharging that were used 24/7/365 as city to city "busses" in USA. Supercharged multiple times a day. Wear and tear on doors and back seats can be higher in taxis too. They reduced the kilometers covered under battery warranty on some newer models compared to older cars.
Back on topic around Dublin airport is also mad with taxis, it really needs a hub, ideally non esb.
What's wrong with a hub for taxi's being run by ESB? They have experience running Taxi only networks in the UK.
The Circle K in Clonshaugh will become the default airport taxi hub when it goes in…..
4 units so I’m assuming 8 cars simultaneously…..
then the Tesla Taxi’s will get their top ups on the Dublin North supercharger whenever that goes in….
Pretty sure the planning permission only had 4 marked spaces, it was 4 single charging units
That's only true for piddly 20-30kWh cars. And leafs. Other cars charge fast up to 80-85-90-95 and beyond. I know for example my model 3 charges at 25-30kW all the way to 95%. I can take 11kW on AC, and the speed on DC never reaches that.
Fast charge points are designed to get you to the next fast charge point - or home... At that charging speed you'd surely never need more than 30 minutes at a 50kW point?
Teslas are the ones with the big batteries and lots of range aren't they?
At a 50kW point I only get 45 minutes which is not enough to fill a 60kWh battery. Therefore I avoid them and only stop at HPC.
Fast charge points getting you to the next one is outdated, thats from when we all had 100km range leafs
New eCARS customer survey just out.
Will we just tell straight out them to sell-up?
Yes. Get out of the business and leave it to competent operators
You've missed the point, again, you're not meant to fully fill your battery at a DC charge point!
Not everybody drives a €55k car
Not meant to? Says who?
At 95% SOC I'm still charging faster than most of the piddly cars are at 70-80% anyway. My old leaf I saw single digits before 80% sometimes in the cold.
