Old thread seems to be permanently locked. It will be interesting if anything can come of this at last.
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if they charged him ,or recommend charge,*the gardai could say they had done their review, made a recommendation and its not their fault if the DPP won't follow up.
. They say they have new witnesses who may give evidence more than there is now. And maybe they have new forensic evidence linking him.
*Think it up to DPP in the final analysis
There is no question. The DPP have said on multiple occasions that they aren't looking at him. The man may be an woman-beating attention seeking prick but there is nothing to tie him to the murder.
I guess that's the question.
Charge him with what exactly?
maybe the recommendation will be to charge him. then it's up to the dpp
Doesn't bailey always apparently have some useful information
And always wants a cold case review
But never actually supplies gardai any of this useful information
i agree
pathetic excuse . if he has information why does he not tell them?.it only takes a phone call
Speaking to the Irish Examiner Mr Bailey said: “I am fully cognisant of the cold case review, which I had initially called for
what a muppet
Revels in the notoriety and arguably that he got away with imo
Look at the absolute state of him and then what he comes out with immediately after the Garda press conference.
He's a pitiful excuse for a man and seems more determined to prove it as the years roll by.
https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/munster/arid-41027120.html
The house she had just left? Why would she check there?
She was heading back to her own house to alert Alfie and call the police, the route she chose took her by the back door of Sophie’s house. She may have tried the door in passing to check on Sophie?
Excepting her own next door/
There’s a body of a female lying battered to death down by the gate.
There is a lone female staying in the house 30 yards away. The fact she was a non National with poor English is no reason not to check on her. Shirley was a non national.
The nearest occupied house is a mile away.
Because the house was right next to the scene maybe?
Remember there were few mobiles back then so it was a landline that would be used to ring the Gardai.
So she had to go to some house and that was the closest.
The Gardai fceked up the case big time imho, whether it was to cover up for one of their own or just stitch up Bailey
Fresh eyes from non corrupt Gardai could find new evidence
Shirley didn`t approach the body. My understanding is that when she realized it was a dead body, she honked on the horn, Alfie didn`t hear it, so she abandoned the car and went back up to her house. I seem to remember that she went up across the paddock in front of Sophie`s house but then that would have taken her by Sophie`s back door anyway. Alfie went and had a look but said he didn`t go close to the body either. Then he knocked on Sophie`s door. That`s working from memory so I stand corrected.
Even if so why go to a non national with poor English first?
i think it is more likely she was hit first at the door and tried to get back in
i do not remember reference to a caravan in relation to Shirley. Its not in A Dream of Death or Death in December or DPP report. DPP report does not mention Shirley only Alfie
She didn’t know the body was Sophie
Seems unlikely to me. You find a body and you go to her house first instead of contacting the Gardai?
Yes it was confirmed as female, probably Sophie’s I believe . My theory on that blood smudge and the blood found in the lawn in front of the house is this;
Shirley Foster drove past the body, and had no idea what it was she had just passed. In fact she said at first she thought it was someone playing a joke. Did she go closer to investigate, and move something to see what she was looking at, and transfer some blood to her glove? She must have realised what what it was before screaming for Alfie. She said she returned to her house around the rear of Sophie’s house past the rear door. Did she try the back door as she passed by? When she told Alfie what she saw, did Alfie go to investigate before phoning the police? Did he get close enough to pick up some blood and transfer it to the door handle as he checked the house? I found it odd that one of them (I don’t know which) pointed out this blood smudge to the police.
yes but no evidence he was inside. Itwas her blood. it could have been her trying to get back in. if he hit her and she touched her head then the door
No, I don’t have a link, but have a look around yourself.
She said, as she was going to the tip with the rubbish, she met Bailey and Jules on the lane by the caravan as they made their way to the scene.
Yes, it seems that it was Sophie's.
Wasn’t there a smudge of blood on the door, possibly where the murderer closed it?
[Det Supt McTiernan ] added that his review – which will be conducted under 13 terms of reference – will deliver "meaningful and salient recommendations" on the huge murder file which extends far beyond 5,000 statements and pieces of evidence.
it says as she fled suspected intruder
Could be the gardai upping the anti too
Can't always take their media statements at face value
do you have a link to that? Don't recall it
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