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Saka is going to get nothing tonight it seems
He sounded like a petulant child when peter Waldon said there was no foul before the France goal.
Suddenly everyone's got a short free kick routine
boys against men, the only worry is a Hereford type scenario, but at this point Gareth looks like a pleasant Mike Bassett, Engurlund manager
This first half is just fizzling out.
How is that not a foul, and they said VAR would have looked at it.
I get that there have been some bad calls (for both sides mind) but they're acting like England should get a free kick any time they're tackled.
A refereeing performance from the school of Mario Yamasaki tonight. Anything goes.
Tchouameni and Bellingham are the gold standard. Pedri and Gavi nowhere near
French passing and ball control is sublime at times, but still see England getting a goal here at some stage.
Are people saying that Kane has a foot outside the box so no penalty, even though '' the foul'' very much took place inside the box
It has been explained above. VAR did look at it. It was a foul outside the box. The ref would only bring the play back if it was a penalty.
Nothing wrong with that from Bellingham, just a clash. Why did the ref stop it though?
Stupid movement by English players for that corner, then Foden kicks it over all of them.
I'd say England shaded that half on the balance of play, yet are a goal down. They've done a good job keeping Mbappe quiet and France aren't offering much in attack. My pre-game nerves haven't been eased much as I see England getting a goal.
Hernandez doing his theatrics
So if Kane was on the ground, with a toe outside the penalty box, and a defender kicked him in the face 6 foot inside the box, it would not be a foul as Kane has a toe outside the box ??
I thought France were playing within themselves controlling it. I think it is likely France score on the counter as England have to push forwards.
Commentary on ITV sounds very downbeat at HT after the initial opening bluster talk.
no complaints about the possible penalty, looked outside but was a foul, the foul on saka is as clear as you like though.
Both teams probably wanted to be set up to counter attack so advantage definitely France, but as an England fan I’m still oddly hopeful
So much happened after the Saka foul, it's a non-starter as an argument. Poor from England, and frankly, a keeper with longer arms would make a better fist of the strike.
100% a foul on Saka,
Not as clear on Kane, although his upper body was going to ground inside the box it isn't as clear that his feet are on the line - looks more like it from behind but not the other angle.
England will be upset with that but there is something in this for them if they can put it behind them, the only worry and others have mentioned it is that France will love to hit on the counter.
On ITV they mentioned that Wenger said it should have been an English penalty. Roy Keane was in like a light and said he was surprised Wenger saw it as he does not normally see penalties.
Definitely a foul, but it was ages before the goal. England had plenty of opportunity afterwards to stop the attack as it was being worked around the box but failed to do so.
Saw that, brilliant from Keane.
What a save by Lloris.
Not so good afterwards.
Laughing at George: "It's in! Is it?"
George needs to go to Specsavers if he thinks that was saved on the line
I know, but the linesman is looking straight at it - I'm just saying if it was against my team i'd be pissed.
Such a lack of consistency in this tournament. Dembele takes the man and then the ball, and gets a yellow for it - as he should. Same thing happened in the box on Nunez for Uruguay and it’s deemed totally fine.
Pen for England
Good thing the ref didn't halt play for the offside, eh ITV ?
Saka is unreal.
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