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Very true, but soldiers get tired and cold too after a while. And it's been a long while.
I'd say they are. Remember these people live in that climate. Also the war began in February which is the height of winter in those parts.
They are not WW II German's sent in summer uniforms and meeting winter conditions much more severe than they were used to.
They were shoved onto buses and had to purchase their own equipment. They'd be lucky to have a pair of gloves. It's not like RuSSia's logistics has been anything short of disastrous in this war. There've been plenty of videos & stills posted here of RuSSian soldiers huddling in shallow trenches to keep warm, and some showing signs of cold-induced ailments.
They're not WWII Germans. Those guys weren't disorganized rabble of ill-equipped rapist alcoholics. If their lunatic leader hadn't decided to try and reach Moscow, who knows where any of us would be today. Though, there have been reports of today's RuSSian grunt using WWII era weapons, so some similarity I guess.
The concensus is Russia is loosing up to 150 men killed per day every day for the last few months and a similar number of injured and incapacitated, we're not 100% sure of the Ukrainans losses but I believe it's smaller due to the fact they are dug in with properly constructed defenses where the Russians are moving along open ground and getting anilated with artillery fire
Obviously DaCor, youv'e never been in a Ruzzian military camp in wintertime, and that's for sure!!! Poor to non-existent supply chain means scavenging for food, firewood, water in fact anything that could make life more bearable. Wearing the same lice ridden clothes for weeks on end, get sick? Tough luck. I'll always remember a bridge I came across in Chechnya at night in the middle of winter guarded by 3 Russians. Mere 18-19 year olds, huddled together ( spooning) in a hole in the ditch, starving and frozen, and if that was not bad enough, they were terrified out of their minds. So no DaCor, Russians are not well treated by their Government, they are abused. And same as happened in Chechnya, is happening to day in Ukraine.
On the other hand, the Ukrainians will be well looked after, and that's for sure! Absolutely no comparison.
Dealing with the cold isn't a natural Russian ability, it's just that in the past they've usually had the correct gear: e.g. recently-arrived Siberian divisions on the Moscow front in 1941. Less than two years before that, Russian soldiiers aplenty were freezing to death in Finland. So did untold numbers of Russian civilians forced out of their homes in winter and stripped of their warm clothing by German soldiers. Even an Inuit will freeze to death without the right clothing.
How could you forget the NUKES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
One of those 'no posts for 8 years then suddenly shows up' posters. We've seen a fair few. I do wonder what happened when that mod went rogue, was it this spring? Perhaps some ID's got leaked.
Maybe once but many accounts of contemporary Russian society show them to have gone soft. Like much of Western Europe. Young too fond of the easy life, more interested in gaming and checking their social media. When you're not fighting for a cause you really think is existential, that makes a huge difference. Putin's goose was cooked the day he invaded Ukraine, one way or another.
Occupation authorities prohibited movement of trucks over 1.5 tonnes via Kerch Bridge
Oh absolutely, my comment was in relation to some who think the Russians won't be able for the cold winter, they will. To think otherwise is just stupid
The winter won't be a friend to either side but it won't be a surprise for either side
I never made any claim they were well treated but nice try with the strawman argument
True. I didn't call them mercenaries - i said mercenary/specialist, and referred to two corps, one mercenary, one specialist. Each called Nazis by the other side.
And yet only one side commiting war crimes and genocide like the Nazis.
Can you guess what side?
Some posters here seem to assume that I support Putin in his war. They assume wrongly.
Not sure where your confidence in the russian military is coming from. I understand they are from a country that is cold in winter but they are invaders in another country where they have thousands of troops in need of supply at the front lines in territory that must be reached through areas well within range of Ukrainian artillery and missiles. There are daily reports of supply hubs of the russians getting hit. Add to that the fact thousands of these russian troops are recent conscripts and recruits from prisons and a number of reports of poor organisation in their troop deployments make thinking they will have problems with the cold winter far from stupid in my opinion. At least they do have the occasional smoking accident to keep them warm.
As I have said before, I think Bakhmut is Putin's killing ground for Wagner and the higher the casualty rate, the better he likes it. Most opponents Putin can arrange to encounter an open window in a tall building, but not Prighozin.
It wouldn't surprise me to learn Prighozin formed a group to Push for Putin to start this war in the first place.
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I don't think it's a case of supporting Putin or not. We all know history will judge him as another Hitler. The case that has to be settled is, are you pro-russian or not? Remember this is war being fought for two competing ideologies. Choose your side carefully because there will be one winner and one loser. The question for Russia is how badly it chooses to loose.
But one isn't specialist,
Ordinary Ukrainians defending Ukraine with a number of few foreigners thrown in ,
Putler
Ah we're back to this I see
Head of Wagner is a literal skinhead with SS tattoos, Russian soldiers with Nazi tattoos can be easily googled, some Russian brigades use far-right and Neo-Nazi symbols. In a country with an increasing totalitarian similarity to Hitler's Germany. Tankies: "Meh"
A battalion created by a Ukrainian Jew that presents 0.1% of Ukraine's present armed forces has some Neo-Nazi and far right members, works over the years to remove that element, has members from other ethnicities, in a country with among the lowest far-right political representation in Europe. Tankies "Putin was right!! Ukraine is a Nazi country!!"
It’ll have to get a lot worse than that. That’s not an off-road vehicle, a BTR, Piranha or the like would have very little trouble with that road.
As you said DaCor, the Russians are well used to living through harsh winters, BUT that's in normal times, living at home with their families, warm house, plenty of food, medicine etc. A normal life in other words. In fact everything that is the complete opposite of a front line in Ukraine.
No, you were claiming that the winter would be the same for all side, and that's true, my point was and still is that Ukrainian soldiers will be treated much better than their counterparts in the Russian army, and I know this from personal experience, and that's no strawman argument, its facts. Now where did you get your experience of Russian Military in a war situation?
Is that total or per axle? It doesn't amount to more than a medium size car. They're not going to move much supplies over that!
there will be a movie about this, in Russian
At this stage one has to be an employee of the Kremlin, or pure thick to believe that meme.
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