Why are you amazed? The border people are widely considered to have a casual regard for the law. Again, the worst thing about Dukes saying what he did is that it just provides a sound bite for the Quinn supporters.
Not sure why you mention about pyrite and mica as nothing to do with financial services and a total different issue
as has been mentioned it illustrates the lack of appetite by irish authorities to regulate and to enforce laws and take action in areas like construction. In the case of quarrying and concrete , illegal quarries were allowed to operate for many years as exposed by a prime time investigates program. In the case of Sean Quinn he just started digging a hole in his farm and excavating gravel without any planning permission or licence, he subsequently got planning permission retrospectively when his operation was already massive .
Its not a big jump to conclude that the concrete blocks that contained mica and pyrite also came from illegal quarries but these operations were allowed to continue. Even where illegal quarrying was reported to county councils by neighbours due to adverse local environmental issues it still took many years to get these operations closed down.
The priory hall scandal was exposed a decade ago yet even after this scandal the "self regulation" regime was allowed to continue, County councils officials do not want to go out to building sites get their boots dirty and inspect buildings during construction, they want to stay in their warm offices or better still work from home
At least we all know who the paymaster is now.
It’s not about hindsight. I went to Irish Nationwide AGMs before the crash and heard the steady stream of complaints about Fingers, his name over concentration on Irish residential property and his failure of decent governance. These weren’t a surprise to anyone in the sector.
Surely it's still the same mystery it has always been?
The councils don't even employ the staff required to do that work.
Most councils seem to regard their role as doing as little as possible in general and the central government doesn't care as long as it can continue to refuse to fund them (or allow them raise funds themselves i.e. a proper property tax) to do anything other than the bare minimum.
...its ultimately a major failing of a fire sector lead economy, this may never change unfortunately....
looking forward to getting back to this documentary, only watched first half hour, really interesting....
It's very clear who the paymaster is to most people. It's unclear to people who are simply stupid or don't want to believe it.
The paymaster is... Local, bitter, wealthy, ruthless, invested, driven, a risk taker, egotistical, entitled, a gambler, has a cohort of loyal bootlickers hates Kevin Lunney & knew Dublin Jimmy.
Who'd you think it is, Santa?
Yeah, that was only thing I would have disagreed with in comment you quoted.
Blaming small amount of staff the councils have that may be capable of getting deep into details of what the construction industry is up to for being too comfy to go around to sites and be nosy is unfair. The councils (leadership) are not to blame either.
The councils are a creature of Central govt. with little power now, even the big ones are under the thumb. Seems like alot of the quango bodies/semi states with overlapping areas of responsibility have more power(s).
Central govt. hold the purse strings and tell the councils what to do. They don't particularly want highly active/aggressive regulation in this area imho. Would be very, very interesting to see what would happen if a large council just tried to go on a "solo run" and do it anyway...I doubt they would be thanked for their effort.
That's my point, the same mystery it has always been, you don't need to to read to the end to figure out whodunit.
It would be disappointing if anyone even vaguely aware of the goings on would have needed this series to open their eyes.
So you agree with me. Stop arguing with me then!
Would his personal bankruptcy have taken that 500k away from him and he would receive a % in return.
Doubtful. Bankruptcy doesn't last too long in Ireland
I thought it was 7 years?
Didn't we change the rules to 1yr.
Yep. Bút there's still a wink-wink-nudge-nudge thing from the media. Either our libel laws need serious reform, or the Paymaster has serious dirt on higher ups, or there is a lot of cowardice in the media and AGS. Or some combination of all three.
Indeed, pyrite scandals very much linked to banking malpractice. Interesting that the likes of the much criticised Liam Carroll's developments were usually structurally sound, haven't read too much about any problems regarding pyrite or similar, but he was lax over health and safety etc.
Dunner's ex in the news recently suing Dermot Desmond, wonder how that will turn out.
Have you got a link for that, Gayle must have grown a huge pair to take Desmond on.....
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/former-journalist-gayle-killilea-sues-dermot-desmond-for-2m-in-row-over-house-once-sold-for-579m-42200983.html
To use engineering jargon gayle killilea , oh that's a legacy issue
thats kind of funny, Killilea thinks she had a verbal agreement with Dermot Desmond to the tune of 2 million euro with nothing written down. Best of luck with that Gayle.
She seems to be adopting the strategy of suing everyone in the hope that one case will come good.
Most other Celtic Tiger developers that went belly-up during the crash are out of bankruptcy, out of NAMA and back in business, some doing quite well e.g Sean Mulryan, there must be a good reason why her ex isn't.
Would that be what you might call “a side deal”?
The media seem to focus on Sean Quinn. The collapse of Anglo was down to others in the main but they don't seem to get the same attention. Who hears about the Maple 10 or the regulator anymore?
Fingers' family are working hard to make sure the family fortune stays in the family;
Sean Quinn focuses on the media, he just did a three part series with RTE! Did you think they tied him to the chair for it? He's constantly making statements for media, he's frequently in contact with the media, he can't shut his mouth when it comes to the media!
When his business was successful, he was often thought of as the invisible man, never engaged with the media.
Now that the finger is pointed at him for reckless trading etc , as the saying goes,
`he doth protest too much '
They were on about him well before he started to 'fight back'. The the Dublin media seem obsessed with him and don't look at the others so much.
Lol... it's the Irish media saabsaab, don't try to decentralise blame from the core. And they will always concentrate on controversial stories and controversial people. The Quinn story is one of the most controversial business stories to hit the country. His gambling cost us all and he's willing to go running to the media time and time again to tell us all how he's hard done by, he's willing to stand in his mansion gazing over the lake, drive around in his Land Rover and tell us how badly he was treated!
Then, there's the beatings, intimidation and vandalism aimed at local employers and other Irish entrepreneurs, business owners and investors.
Sorry sunshine, the Irish people won't be brushing that under the carpet because poor old Sean Quinn is a man of the people. There's going to be accountability.
It's just the usual nonsense from Quinn's dwindling bunch of yes-men...the Dublin D4 media have it in for a local country boy...blah blah blah...pure whataboutery and such arrant nonsense.
The 'Dublin' media have published loads of negative pieces about Michael Fingleton, David Drumm, Sean Fitzpatrick, even the notoriously litigious Denis O'Brien etc. (the former not originally from Dublin, but the latter three are/were).
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