That's it he's proper fcuked now.
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That's not how a psychiatric diagnose would work. People can and do say very unreasonable **** all the time simply liking the historical figure of Hitler and declaring that, while it would be considered an unreasonable belief by most does not make a person insane of itself.
I disagree.
I would consider someone who publicly states that they love Adolf Hitler not of sound mind.
so you keep saying.
I have no idea why you are so argumentative and curt with your responses.
It's very unnecessary.
Yeah, if he is in fact bi-polar it might be part of the reason he started verbalizing his thoughts, but not the reason the thoughts were already in his head. But now it seems like he's thinking "**** it, in for a penny, in for a pound" and he's just letting it all out.
Would you consider the type of person who gets deep into conspiracies to be not of sound mind? I have two old friends who have spouted some holocaust denial stuff to me. I wouldn't consider them mentally unstable. As much as I hate it, this conspiracy mindset has become more and more prevalent. You only need to read these pages to see how common it is.
Yeah, I would consider them disturbed, deep into paranoia. Probably have massive 'grievances' with the man. If they smoke a lot of marijuana, that can contribute to paranoia, too.
My take on the 'extreme' conspiracy theorists I know, is that they're pretty much all out-and-out b*stards and to be avoided. The anti-vaxx side of them are some sort of bizarre death cult trying to score points through people dying. And, usually, when they get into it deeply, they become intolerable to be around. These weren't good people to begin with, they found their echo chamber and their true nature comes out.
That's my take on Ye. He wasn't a good guy, he probably has some mental conditions, but they've gone mostly untreated and with his easy access to the media, off he went to spew what he's felt all along. The mental illness didn't make him a rabid anti-semite. He was already one. It just made it worse.
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Interesting question.
Perhaps not. It would obviously need to be contextualised as to what or why their holocaust denial entailed and the extent of their denial.
But I am comfortable to say that if anyone who knew about Hitler would speak about him in a positive manner is not really of sound mind.
Isn't the Hitler praise and this denial of the holocaust crap just a form of conspiracy theory. People who do it seem to be under the impression that what we have been told is not the truth about Hitler.
Why is the Hitler conspiracy so special that belief in it confers the status of "not being of sound mind" and others do not.
Someone who is okay with a man who killed tens of millions of people cannot be considered a normal member of society.
Well that is easily solved as many have attempted in the past and which I think kanye even alluded during the alex jones car crash. All you got to do there eskimo is to deny the holocaust. And there have been many attempts at that since the events transpired
including on this very message board.
People who deny the Holocaust are not the same as those who actively praise Hitler (though often the two go hand in hand, for sure).
As bad as denying the Holocaust is - which tends to be an almost paranoid belief - it pales into insignificance to someone who actively praises a man who was responsible not just for the 6 million deaths of the Holocaust, but tens of millions of additional deaths from the Second World War.
And yes, someone who expresses the conspiracy theory of Holocaust denial is bad (to say the least), but someone who expresses admiration for the man at the top responsible for those deaths and many more besides, clearly has a screw or two loose.
What about the many millions of normal Germans (and other nationalities) who supported Hitler while he was doing so. Or the thousands who actively partook in the Holocaust? Were they all mentally ill? How could a regime survive and operate for so long just made up of people suffering from severe mental illness?
One of the lessons of the Holocaust is that it very normal people can support and partake in extremely appalling acts.
I’m not saying that Kanye doesn’t suffer from mental illness - his bi-polar diagnosis is well known. But the claim that only a mentally ill person could support Hitler defies all evidence.
This description always bothered me about German culture and society. It would probably have been understandable if the simple and uneducated people went along, but no, there were many who had university degrees as well. Yes there was resistance in Germany but not much.
Even worse Austria, - apparently the first victim? But what did they do in Austria? They should have fought like the Ukrainians and also they should have built up a "stay behind organization" to terrorize the Nazis. From 1933 to 1938 there would have been more than enough time to prepare.
But the claim that only a mentally ill person could support Hitler defies all evidence.
Nobody has made that claim.
You can be unhinged, detached, and sociopathic whilst not being "mentally ill".
But having those three traits certainly points toward those screws being slightly loose.
Again, the entire Nazi regime and their millions of supportes were - unfortunately - not unhinged, detached or sociopathic. To put those definitions on them is to put the cart before the horse, and to fail to learn a lesson from history.
They were mostly normal people.
Its also entirely possible that one can post, post after post filled with word after word sentence after sentence paragraph after paragraph whilst not saying anything at all.
People, caught up in the midst of war and propaganda are often coerced into believing, supporting and carrying out horrific acts.
But long after the fact, when the dust has settled and when all the evidence is there and everything is laid bare and you STILL publicly declare your love for adolf hitler, you aren't the full shilling.
I agree. Your post demonstrates that point.
Many European countries had to put an awful lot of effort into making Nazism socially and politically unacceptable after the war. It did not happen automatically once hindsight came into play. And while that effort continues (hence the various laws against certain symbols, denying the Holocaust, etc), we shouldn’t forget how much it was - and is - needed.
Germany was that way as well. Especially if you have a labour shortage somewhere and those with the experience happened to have been a member of the Nazi party. They were pardoned quickly.
From the local government in Hessen to the Bundeskriminalamt ( the federal police authority ) many had NSDAP records in their previous lives.
Furthermore, in Austria, you just had to join the socialdemocratic party, or the bund of socialdemocratic academics and all sins were forgotten.
Highlight reel of 3 hours in 10 minutes
https://www.reddit.com/r/Kanye/comments/zd4b6g/this_is_a_compilation_of_kanyes_worst_moments_and/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
I think my favorite bit was using his smartphone to google the book in front of him.
Hitler endorsing Wagner must be the reason I never hear Ride of the Valkyries on Spin.
The Russians use the same conspiracy theories to peddle their narrative there's nothing mad about him at all he's just an extremely spoiled narcissist.
He has some serious delusions of grandeur for someone who can't be arsed doing the homework. I expect he'll be whatever is the US equivalent of sectioned before long. I saw a tattoo place in London offering free tattoo removals for Kanye (ex) fans. I guess there will be a lot of people getting cover-ups too.
Please just Google an authoritarian regime.
If this West fella was living under Hitler’s Nazi Germany… history shows us he’d have been persecuted and sterilised…thats if Hitler was in a good mood. If Hitler was in an ‘ok’ mood….he’d have tortured and killed him.
of course ‘Kanye’ for all his $$$$$$$ can’t buy a brain cell to understand that.
I think you're right, Hitler wasn't too fond of the mentally disturbed. but then I'm not too sure where you're going with your last line...
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