A pit bull dog below in Wexford the latest episode of a child been savaged . Are these dogs suitable for pets .
PS The only people with Pitbulls or similar in our town are involved in drug dealing and or general criminality.
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If you think you can't make a Labrador aggressive just because it wasn't bred to fight then you don't know alot about dogs & all it takes is a few generations of breeding that aggressiveness & some muscle into Labradors and you have your new 'status symbol' dog.
Comparing a Hyena or any other WILD animal with a dog is like comparing apples with oranges.
Dogs (including Pits) have been domesticated for around 30,000 years, they literally don't know how to survive without people. It's just a shame some people exploit a dogs loyalty for their own gain to the dog's detriment.
Doesn't take generations to make any dog aggressive, all it takes is one fooked up owner and you have a monster. As plenty people on this thread pointed out, owning a dog is not a right, it is privilege. If people, all people, will start to think about it that way, there will be significantly less of biting accidents. Dog is owner's responsibility. You treat your dog well and you have a friend for life (dog's life), doesn't matter the breed, size or length of the tail.
Unfortunately some owners forgets that.
And we end up having threads like this one.
I didn't say it took generations to make a dog aggressive, I said it only takes a few generations to make a new status symbol dog.
Sorry, I've overlooked that part. Reading too fast. Anyway I didn't try to disagree with your post. Thought I'll just continue on the same wave, if that makes sense.
Yes. I 'll get myself a cat maybe a Leopard or a Tiger. Some of them aren't man eaters at all!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7R2eBwXlotI&ab_channel=WorldClassK-9
All it takes for any breed to become aggressive is training or a lack thereof, when was the last time anyone of you heard of a French Bulldog with protection training commands etc, never I bet. It might look funny seeing such an unassuming breed act like this, its not funny when its the family dogs reaction after being repeatedly abused by one of the families kids so it responses with aggression like this either seriously injuring or killing a child. Even if it was an adult winding a dog up and getting attacked by a small dog the bite risk might not be fatal but people have lost digits and limbs to smaller and large dog attacks that weren't fatal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hd2wD7aV6as
Sure why would anyone want a shepherd if they can act like this.............sarcasm btw this is a trained Malinois (Belgian Shepherd) these dogs are used the world over by law enforcement and military but that'll show you they might be quick learners as pups but need alot of work both mentally and physically and just like most large breeds to be stable pets with owners who'll put in the work with them just like owners of restricted and non restricted breeds should be doing.
I think every canine professional has scratched their head at the Restricted Dog list. It was put together by people who I think just went "that looks scary, put it on". The likes of Malinois, Tibetan Mastiff, Caucasian Shepherds, etc., are not on it, when these are breeds that should not be owned by the average dog owner.
I do believe anyone who owns a breed on (an updated) Restricted Dog list, or a cross of them, should have to go through some form of training or exam process, or in some way prove they're capable of owning one with the end result being certification.
"when these are breeds that should not be owned by the average dog owner"
Unfortunately, the point I've been making throughout this thread that the XL Bullies and other over muscled dogs are being purchased and attained by the below average dog owner.
Guys,
Some the most brilliant and responsible dog owners will never change the innate breeding and temperament and potential devastation certain dogs can deliver.
Even the “friendliest” pit bull terrier is still a pit bull terrier. They are naturally a powerful and hyped dog, capable of extreme aggression. No young/small child should ever be left alone with them.
From USA figures pit bull dogs are 33 times more likely to kill a human than a German Sheperd!
I'm out of this discussion. How can a dog that has never been involved in a singe human attack fatality be classed as dangerous.
Why don't u listen to yourself. Would you ban labradorite, cocker spaniels Jack Russell's all of which have higher fatality incidents than RR.
The ridiculous nature of the restricted dogs list is crazy , Caucasian shepherd's and chow chows aren't even mentioned, both dangerous dogs to humans. Black Russian terriers and giant schnauzers, the list goes on.
Do you know much about Rhodesian Ridgebacks as you seem to have information to class them as a dangerous dog.
Most people couldn't pick a Pitbull out of a line up so how can stats on bite frequency be accurate? Any dog with a blocky type head & muscular body is misidentified as a Pitbull so it's no surprise that Pitbulls get wrongly blamed when in fact it's a different dog breed or cross.
From a US site about the killer dogs
"Nine of the 33 humans killed by pit bulls in the U.S. in 2019 were killed by pit bulls raised from puppyhood in their own homes. This was true of only two fatalities inflicted by other types of dog. Meanwhile, at least three new scientific studies produced genetic and physiological evidence that pit bulls are inherently more dangerous than other dogs, regardless of how they are raised, trained, and kept.
See Pit bulls: new gene study shows it is NOT “all in how you raise them”; Dog brain study refutes every major claim of pit bull advocacy; and Gut biome, gunpowder, & what makes a pit bull “grand champion.”
Bears v Pitbull (types)
Black and grizzly bears combined killed four people in Alaska and Canada, and in 2019, only 2 fatal bear attacks occured. Between 2000 and 2015, grizzly bears killed a total of two dozen people in North America, according to a report on nature.com.
No doubt that the 'pit bull' is far more dangerous.
The truth is you are looking for an out, from another legal website
Pitbulls are responsible for the vast majority of fatalities associated with dogs. From 2010 to June 2021, there were 430 fatal dog bites, with 185 of those coming from pit bulls, and another 41 that were pit bull mixes.
It's not a pitbull Caesar
I see plenty who will most definitely see themselves as responsible dog owners in the local parks around here... Off leads and without muzzles. Allowed run wherever they like.
Yep very thing happened in the local park a few weeks ago before this incident, guy had his Pitbull off the lead letting it run around, ran over to my kids, it was friendly granted, but if it decided to attack kids wouldn’t have a chance, dangerous dangerous things
It's a fact that most people can't identify a Pitbull not even dog wardans, so any dog with even the faintest similarities to a Pitbull will be labelled one. You cross a lab with a boxer and it attacks someone, people will take one look at the stocky body & block head and guess what they will call it.
If people can't even identify a Pitbull, how can any stats be accurate?
Tha't a question for those that compiled those stats. I guess they had some system in doing so. In any case it isn't an issue as pitbul type dogs are inherently way more dangerous that other dogs even bears in USA!
The sad part of this thread is the young lad attacked by this dog and the life changing injuries he has received and the other kids witnessing the attack and it’s all about how poor little rover would do no harm and one clown blaming the child for provoking the dog. Wake up a 9 year old was seriously attacked by a dog and is in crumlin hospital with life altering injuries and all people are worried about is their breed of dog, a lot on here don’t realise the damage dogs can do to sheep and the aftermath of dog attack’s. Wake up and think of the child and his family and forget about dangerous breeds of dogs"
Try this article
And study they are referring to
https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abk0639?adobe_mc=MCMID%3D84642491739088231094049347991384876828%7CMCORGID%3D242B6472541199F70A4C98A6%2540AdobeOrg%7CTS%3D1651162390&_ga=2.218466969.1066386900.1651162373-689641651.1609118629
Pretty sure literally no one forgets that boy in the hospital on this thread. Especially that attack was totally preventable. People not mentioning it in every post doesn't mean they ignore it. So wake up!
Unless of course you want to turn this thread into thoughts and prayers one.. I can think about that poor fella, without expressing it online, pretty sure plenty posters have that ability too.
I don't care if they can identify a breed or not. Dogs should be under control. All dogs. How is even up for discussion?
That article is about personality/behaviour but the facts from the USA show that pit bulls are 33 times more likely to kill than German Shepards! That is something that is hard to ignore. My 'Pit' wouldn't hurt a fly doesn't really mean much overall they are a dangerous breed due to a combination of reasons.
Go to humans. Bad up bringing. Wash repeat. It's astounding I haven't killed somebody. Animals are animals. We are responsible. Sane as parents.
Humans are responsile for breeding these no argument there. It is also our duty to put down dogs like these, whatever the reasons. The facts are there for anyone to see.
No, the article and study they refer to, is about breed doesn't really predicting behaviour, personality of dog you have at home. Plenty of other factors in play and breed doesn't seems to be dominant at all.
I think that goes without saying.
I was arguing about the accuracy of the bite stats posted when people can't even identify breed.
