Thread to discuss the football itself.
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I think it’s just inside by a fraction
If that ball is in they need to rethink the rule. That ball is over the line and is out.
This angle does make it look out:
Gary Neville really going hard with the corrupt FIFA.
ITV clearly showing one angle where the ball is still on the line yet completely ignoring that shot.
I believe it is called the error of Parallax
First time there has been physics on a football thread!?
Nah, it's always been a physical game 🤣
Hard to be 100% certain either way whether the ball is out. It certainly isn’t ‘definitely’ out as some are saying. The more images I see the more I’m leaning towards it actually still being in play..barely!
I now have a "valid" question.
What is the rule about thickness of the lines? I have never seen one.
Yeah if it was out, there would be blades of grass visible in the picture I posted above. It’s a tiny margin but there is no evidence to say it’s fully out.
Didi Hamann sounding pissed off that Germany are out, stuttering his way through his analysis.
Whole of the ball over the whole of the line... surely that's the simplest rule? Otherwise you're dealing with percentages of the ball and percentages of the line.
Good point.
With the overhead angle it looks arguable, maybe, but from the lower angle it looks clearly over the line to me.
I now have a "stupid" question.
Could the impact that his foot has on the ball here have changed the shape near the endline? Do we need to see this frame by frame?
First angles I saw I thought it was a dreadful decision, but others remind me of this old goal line tech pic:
So marginal, not outrageous I think. I’d love to see the angles VAR saw!
I'm not sure it even does though... like, looking at the edge of the ball, to me that looks like it's pretty much right over the very edge of the line. The better top down image posted above - which is from an angle that would actually err on the side of making it look out, since it's from the 'line side' perspective - gives a clearer impression of how far out the full silhouette of the ball actually goes
To be fair, he would probably sound the exact same if Germany had topped the group!
Ah here 😂 Poor Havertz
Think another one of these is in order
Ha, that's a good question actually - I presume there must be some designated paint roller thingy they have to use?
My first thought as well... really goes to show the finest of margins in football. Those millimetres cost Liverpool a title, and knocked Germany out of a world cup.
Be like the 'hanging chads' of 2022, checking which individual blades of grass have paint on them...
"To be honest, I couldn't give a ****, we've just got knocked out of the World Cup."
Not all pitches are the same size and that doesn't seem to matter as long as they are within the offical sizes allowed so maybe the line size has to be equal to the size of the pitch so they could be different on every pitch.
It is like those Irish 3 Mobile MOTM winners….at the AVIVA 🤨
Thought this was interesting
Daylight robbery
Delighted for Japan, super effort and though I thought they were defending too deep for too long Spain are just so one dimensional I guess they felt confident that if they just kept it solid in the middle all would be well, and in fairness Spain didn't really trouble them, can't say they didn't try though.
Spanish goalkeeper was poor.
Japan winner looks like it was still in play and with goalline technology you would be pretty confident that if they were overturning the referees decision it was in fact still in play.
Nonsense.
He was very honest about them not being good enough.
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