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Who thinks Sean Quinn is a great businessman now?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,232 ✭✭✭waterwelly


    The wife looks like a hard-line Provo, with connections.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 261 ✭✭Munstergirl854


    Just finished it....I'd come away from watching it more feeling pity than anger for him at the whole thing.

    His wife and himself do seem very bitter which would sway you towards involvement in the attacks...when he was asked he used the line of why would I or how could I...usually if a person is wrongly accused of something they will just deny or say no.it implies guilt to wander off and ramble I think.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,116 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    I'd say the house is as void of love and life as every house where the couple have been married a lifetime.

    I think its fascinating that Quinn stayed loyal and didn't get himself a young one

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Mike on


  • Posts: 9,106 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Well if he sold his Range Rover he might have enough money to heat his indoor swimming pool

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Mike on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,553 ✭✭✭kaymin


    It's hard to understand his and his wife's mentality. You have one life to live and they've spent the last ten years waking up every day down and depressed about what happened. Time to get philosophical and start living life. Likelihood is though they will spend the rest of their days brooding about what could have been. What a waste of a life.



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  • Posts: 4,546 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Tonight was about 90 minutes, Monday was about 90 too but Tuesday was a bit shorter and seemed to have a bit of odd editing near the end too. Something edited out there??


    Something smells a bit strange



  • Posts: 2,825 ✭✭✭ Leilani Drab Seal


    Exactly, They probably have enough money stashed away somewhere to live a life that most of us could only dream of

    They have their health and they have their grandkids. But we got enough insight to see they will be bitter until the end.



  • Posts: 2,752 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Was Dublin Jimmy always based up around there?



  • Posts: 11,195 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]



    The Organisation of Working Time Act 1997 doesn’t allow a working week that exceeds 48 hours in a seven day period averaged out over four months. 



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,297 ✭✭✭Count Dracula


    To clarify on some points i have read.

    RTE did not make this documentary, they purchased the right to broadcast it from the production company who made it. It was not made by RTE. This documentary will no doubt be sold to other global TV networks, worldwide. It is worth noting that, as sometimes people incorrectly fuse any production motivations. It is entirely possible that it is part of an agenda, but more likely just an interesting story for anyone interested.

    Entrepreneurs are bull headed and take risks. They rarely perceive themselves in a negative way. They manage to dissasociate themselves from any failures, particularly financial losses. When they win they pat their own backs and raise a glass to all involved. When they lose, they blame the concept, or the strategy, or the lack of funds, or the consumer appetite, or government intervention, or the law, or the timing of their idea, or the external market, or their resources, human or otherwise.

    They blame everything but themselves.

    The concept that he was naive or lacked the kudos to play the international markets is easily the most condescending. He started throwing sheckels at the ISE a good 20 years before CFD's. He knew very well how to turn a few pence into pounds. He had the FT delivered from Enniskillen everyday, he knew the craic. His brokers did the rest. I can see him gazing out the fhuinneog, hand on bollocks and the other cupping a mobile, buying shares from some dude in Dublin with a tight lip who he knew a long time, for sure.

    I actually can empathise with the man, losing your cojones is no joke. I knew a sound lad who lost 7 figures and will never see it again. I asked him what he did when he realised he was phucked..... he said he went up to bed and assumed the fetal position stark naked and sucked his thumb staring at the same corner of his bedside locker for almost 36 hours. He cried without crying, tears poured from his eyes, he shivered but made little noise. It reminded him of pre birth, he hoped he might just wake up and get another chance.

    It gets overlooked how that business originally grew, just follow the money and the answer is glaringly obvious. He never threw that toy from the pram either. Without handy access to moola it is very very difficult to start a business, fact, those who say they know don't, those who say they don't know.... do. Put it this way, if he really started from scratch, surely he would know how to do it again, you can't keep a good man down. How come the rest of the tigers are back in the hunt and he is left crying out the window?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,915 ✭✭✭StupidLikeAFox




  • Posts: 2,752 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    They haven’t gone away you know?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22 Buster197456


    Actually taught Rte made this the didn't purchased as someone has mentioned. Probably won't be the last stuff done on this. Such a murky affair how it all played out in the end.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,132 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Its an awful tasteless kip all the same.

    Money does not guarantee class.



  • Posts: 33,400 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Anyone who put a significant part of their pension into a single company, or even a single sector and country was very foolish and didn't follow the basic investment advice of diversification.

    Having said that, I vaguely recall Gay Byrne or Pat Kenny saying that they were advised to rush into Irish financial shares. Sounds like pub advice rather than professional advice.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,944 ✭✭✭Sgt Hartman


    He should have never moved that ancient 5000 year old tomb stone by stone from his quarry to the grounds of his hotel. I don't care if you believe it's codswallop or not but the man has had nothing but bad luck since...

    ”If I offended you, you needed it!!” - Corey Taylor



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,496 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    Very true, calling shares in a single company a pension is entirely inaccurate, that’s not even a portfolio

    anyone with a proper standard pension pot survived 2008 and thrived afterwards



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,139 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    He hasn’t had bad luck. He made bad decisions. There’s a huge difference. There’s no supernatural forces at play here.



  • Posts: 14,768 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    If there was a fourth episode Quinn would have got around to blaming the fairies for his woes.



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  • Posts: 8,532 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    All to be paid off their National Debt I assume 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,496 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    His words about Kevin Lunney at the end were chilling ( even he had no involvement? )



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,320 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    It just goes to show what Dukes knows or cares of Ireland and Irish history. He said, when sneering at the border county people, that they were "a militant type of people unlike say the people of South Tipperary "

    Does he not even know that during our war of independence the most militant and active resistance came from Tipperary in general and souuth Tipperary in particular!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,496 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    He should never have gotten involved in financial markets to anything close to the degree he did , he was zealous in terms of being hands on about every aspect of his business interests, he had no way of controlling short sellers in New York etc who smelled blood in the water re_ Anglo



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,404 ✭✭✭Field east


    I was thinking the same when the economy collapsed and the builders / developers were ‘deemed’ to be largely responsible with houses built that were not scalable and a VERY large amount of borrowings to be paid back did the government NOT KEEP SOME OF THESE BUILDERS / DEVELOPERS ON ‘THEIR BOOKS’ BY PAYING THEM €100,00 A YEAR to get some necessary building work done. It made perfect sense at the time as they were the only ones that could do the required works.

    could the same not have been done with Quinn. Let him continue running the aledegly profitable businesses with an agreement re annual payments to the Gov, that the last 5 years of accounts be made available and that the Gov would have at least two reps on the board or senior staff members in each his companies.

    Outstanding bill could have been fully paid back in 10 to 15 years, the overall business would have continued uninterrupted and NONE of the criminal activity would have happened



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,320 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    Whatever about quinn and his **** ups the most odious and long lasting image from the episodes is the sneering face of Dukes who appeared to be almost on a boner at the thoughts of quinns downfall.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The long lasting image for me was the savagery and injuries inflicted on Kevin Lunney.

    Have you any local info on who the paymaster is?



  • Posts: 8,532 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I supposed you'd rather someone having a sneer about you than breaking your shins with a bat.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,247 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    Post edited by Boards.ie: Mike on


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,529 ✭✭✭finisklin


    That struck me as well. The only thing I could think of was the current debate about the bankers bonus's. Was RTE trying to throw a spanner in the works with this by having the Quinn programme now? I'm not normally one for conspiracy theories......



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