A pit bull dog below in Wexford the latest episode of a child been savaged . Are these dogs suitable for pets .
PS The only people with Pitbulls or similar in our town are involved in drug dealing and or general criminality.
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"Vastly decrease" how, in what artful way are we excusing ourselves to repeat the same mistakes? Forced sterilization? Forced interbreeding? Culling? This isn't a rosemary bush we are talking about.
There is no such thing as "normal" when it comes to human pets - most breeds were created to target some desirable characteristics, and plenty of breeds have died out in the past too as a result. The fact that humans have moved on from archaic practices like pit fighting dogs is plenty of reason to see pitbulls start to disappear from the gene pool.
That can occur naturally, though, not as a matter of humans engineering it to be. Stop breeding them, especially for fighting purposes, and these traits wont prevail.
A ban on owning them and breeding them, strict penalties for those found in breach of that.
Demand will quickly fall away, and so will birthrates of pits. Those currently as household pets will have to be put down. What is inhumane about any of that?
There are 18 million pit bulls adopted in the United States today. What do we do with them when this ban comes into force? Are they euthanized en masse?
Simply not allowing the dogs to reproduce, say by neutering, is not "human experimentation on other sentient animals". You seem to have gone off on some weird tangent in your head that isn't grounded in reality.
Are you against the general practice of neutering and spaying pets?
What the actual hell overheal?
I'm aware you're just trying to 'win' an argument here, but that kind of language is not really necessary .
Spaying and neutering of pets is already commonplace and shelters already perform this as a matter of policy, in that regard there's no special enhancement available to 'neuter pit bulls twice' or something. As a result, if you eliminate all dog-fighting breeding, I think you'd still find pit bull in the dog gene pool.
🙄 Ding ding ding, we have a winner folks.
I did wonder how this thread would jump the shark into total lunacy - here we have it. Vets putting down animals, or even animal culls (routinely done all over the world, incl. here in Ireland) is somehow comparable to the Holocaust. Wew
You literally asked what's inhumane about exterminating 18 million dogs, though? And you don't see the connection? Oh, you don't want to see it. You see it as "jumping the shark" got it.
I agree to a point - dangerous breeds should be muzzled. But I think that some breeds are so dangerous that their ownership should be severely restricted. I can't understand why anyone would keep a pitbull as a pet. Other than perhaps for intimidation purposes.
'Farmers are fully entitled to shoot dogs when they are out of control, in either a public or private land, under the Dangerous Dogs Act 1991.'
Fully within my rights
That reply to my question doesn't make any sense, nor does it make any sense as a stand-alone post.
I kinda agree humans shouldn't reproduce as much. ;)
Dog breeds are a human invention, remember? Quite recently, in the last few 100 years only. We created all these breeds, bred those traits into them. This isn't an endangered natural creature, all dogs are created by us selectively breeding for traits. This isn't a panda whose bamboo habitat was removed. This is a genetically engineered creature.
How you think those hyperallergenic cockerpoo puppies come about? A poodle and a cocker spaniel aren't falling deeply in love and starting a family together...
As we have artificially created an animal which by it's nature rips the face and belly off a 9 year old child, I think we should take some responsibility, as humans. Take a step back and say, hey, you know what, maybe this one wasn't a super good idea.
Presumably you're in the UK?
Then I cannot help you.
We could neuter all pitbulls in common ownership and only allow breeding for small number of select approved kennels. Keeps the breed alive but takes them out of the hands of the masses.
most dogs period in common ownership are already neutered...
But why do we have to keep the breed "alive"?
Edit: and to be very clear, I'm not talking about exterminating any extant dogs.
Also just baning the sale and breeding of them in Ireland is highly unlikely to massively effect numbers world wide.
My personal view is the UK got it right regarding certain breeds, however there are still these breeds around in the UK.
https://www.lancs.live/news/lancashire-news/dog-breeds-banned-uk-what-24241056
Overheal threadbanned
No. The same law applies here I guess. Anyway my land my rules.
See Examiner quote
All stems back to not having enough law enforcement in this country.
From cnuts with 80+ convictions getting suspended sentences by a corrupt judge, scum attacking gardai like in Ballyfermot, irresponsible dog owners put people's lives at risk and no deterrent, for how long more do decent people need to suffer while scum in the minority can repeatedly do as they please unpunished?
Shows how mad it all is
The Examiner quote is wrong, there is no 'Dangerous Dogs Act, 1991' here...read the correct legislation.
No, what's really "funny" is that if you google pit bulls you'll find that they top the table for attacks on humans, and kills of humans. Pit bulls top that chart despite not being in the top fifty breeds in terms of popularity/population.
That's hilarious (if that is what you think is funny).
I agree completely with you.I have a little cross bred terrier and we (my wife and I) walk him regluarly in our local park as do many others.But there are an elderly couple who do the same with two alsations who are not muzzled .Whenever we come close(we go another way to avoid them) the Alsations are pulling at the leads to come over to us and my dog.It is really scarey as if one of the dogs broke free I know there would be trouble.I waited one day for the couple to get back to their car and told them their dogs as a prescribed dangerous dog in Ireland should be muzzled.The elderly man told me to f$ck off and mind my own buisness.They still continue to walk their unmuzzled dogs in the park.I have never seen a dog warden in forty years of owning dogs checking on dog owners.
If you'd seen the photos of the young lad in Wexford with potentially life changing injuries you'd probably understand the anger on display in this thread.
The young lad could have been killed himself.
Ultimately some idiot thought it was a good idea to get a breed of dog well known for attacking and indeed killing people. Then decides they are different and that the law around restricted breeds doesn't apply to them. Then decides it's okay to let these animals out unleashed and un- muzzled.
Unfortunately there are a lot of idiots in the world who will do stupid things. You've either got to stop them doing stupid things(bans or restrictions on what they can own), punish them for being stupid (criminal proceedings) or a combination of both.
There's no good reason to keep this breed "alive".
Breeds have gone extinct before and it's not like they are any great cultural loss, usually because they had fallen out of fashion or outlived their usefulness.
Will you stop with the macho "tough man, especially on the internet" shite saabsaab, never say anything on a forum that you wouldn't say without your mates falling around laughing at you in the pub!
