A pit bull dog below in Wexford the latest episode of a child been savaged . Are these dogs suitable for pets .
PS The only people with Pitbulls or similar in our town are involved in drug dealing and or general criminality.
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Did the pit bull take off his own muzzle to attack the child?
Of course not. There was no muzzle nor leash to speak of, and it seems the owner was nowhere to be seen either.
You're talking nonsense. Give it up.
And as for your talk of "genocide", Jesus...just when I thought the quality of your posts couldn't sink any further.
Do you think there’s a reason the dog mauled this child, and no other child, in the neighborhood?
We have the word of children what happened according to the article in the OP.
Therefore I see no reason to insert that the child is “innocent” when that is neither relevant or truly knowable here. Stick to the fact, an untrained dog from a strong fighting breed attacked a human child nearly killing him.
The goal of ascribing him as innocent in the post was to spice up the sensationalism of the story, to drive a hateful rhetoric against a specific breed of dog hoping to ban its existence (ie. Genocide)
Good lord. There's always one.
How do we know the child is innocent?
You're now moving on to attack a 9-year old kid who at the time was playing football?
Utterly ridiculous.
That dog should have been muzzled and on a leash, irrespective of any other factor.
The culpability lies with the owner, and that owner should - at the very least - pay for all medical expenses the child may need to endure, as well as a healthy custodial sentence for creating the conditions that allowed this avoidable incident to take place.
You can continue to attack the child and defend the pit bull and its owner all you wish, but it's utterly despicable stuff.
The child? Provoking?
Explain please. I'm sure your response will be ever so informative.
How do we know the child is innocent and was not provoking the animal?
All you seem to provide here is a grandstandy post begging for internet points.
And your whataboutery, laughable.
read the thread if you missed the posts I’m referring to, including yours - you have a habit of forgetting what you e already said.
It's illegal to have that dog on the loose. Cops should have shown initiative and shot it on sight.
Nah. These dogs are not bred for warm and cuddly purposes. They are a lethal weapon and should not be regarded any different to firearms etc
I'd say he/she was just pointing out stupidity of some posts on this thread..
did you cry genocide in this thread with reference to dog breeds?
68 thousand posts of that kind of shite is a failure of moderation
You walk down the street with a loaded gun with potential to kill, you get charged, might get convicted and worst case a suspended sentence.
You walk down the street with a dangerous out of control animal, with potential to kill, you get ignored by the law, or worst case a warning
You drive down the street with no tax on your car, you go straight to court, criminal conviction, possible jail, a criminal record which could affect your future career.
Good to know our law serves to protect.
It's not difficult to understand, you were lucky the animal responded well to you, it could just as easily tossed you onto the ground like a ragdoll
It's not really about the luck. Shows more experienced owner, who looks after the animal properly.
By the logic of some on this thread, we should get rid of horses too, because I can tell you, they can kill you faster than any dog you can come up with.
The priority should always be about saving the lives of innocent children, not armchair philosophizing about the beauty of pit bulls within the natural world.
That kid was almost killed, yet you are spending all your time criticising everyone on this thread bar the dog and its owner.
And for the record, nobody here as argued for the "mass murder" of pit bulls. You're arguing against yourself, in a meaningless mess of irrelevance whilst everyone else is concerned for the kid and ways to prevent this kind of sickening attack from happening again.
Get your priorities straight for God's sake.
Dogs like pit bulls were bred for one specific purpose and as such should not be kept as pets. Their nature is deeply ingrained in them and regardless of how good the owners are, there is always a high risk they can attack, never mind when under the custody and Control of the fuckin scrotes that seem to own them as some kind of badge of honour. While the same can be said for alot of breeds, few other dogs have the capacity or capability of such savage attacks.
Because it’s irrelevant, and based on a conditional I don’t satisfy.
Lad who appears to have owned this dog should be put behind bars for twenty years min.
And thats why we pay €120 each week to have our little muttie walked while we are at work. Plus evening walks by ourselves, overnight sitters when we are away, extra costs for dog friendly hotels, extra costs for pet friendly cabins when we go to Spain and France. So please don't anyone tell me the effort, work, responsibity, cost and love that goes into owning a dog, big or Small !
I like how you ignore all but the first comment.
I stand corrected. Don't shotguns have solid slugs, or are they illegal here?
Ps I know nothing about guns.
Anyone that takes on a large strong energetic breed dog should be walking, running, entertaining it for hours each day to meet its needs. Plus training, socializing, medical and other needs are also required.
This doesn't apply only to large breeds. It basically applies to any breed of the dog. You have to invest time, attention etc. !! If people are not ready to do that, then is better to forget about getting the dog and get teddy bear instead. Simple.
The argument does make sense.
Don't be in a public area with an animal capable of serious harm that you can't control.
If your stronger then the animal then its obviously not an issue.
I would have punted the thing into the middle next week!
True enough, most Irish dog owners let them roam off the leash. Just look at the fouled footpaths/greens in every city town.
Remember seeing two off leash large dogs chase and run a small dog down and the owners didn't recall them until it was over. The owners then vanished sharpish when the small dog owner came running.
On the same day, yesterday, a story on BBC news of a child killed by the same dogs.
It will keep happening.
You should need some kind of special license, reason, training, space and annual check ups by the state, which you pay for, to have dogs like these.
Also, insurance to pay for the carnage and physical and mental medical treatment on the attacked person and family. Why should the taxpayer have to pay ?
If you want a dog there are plenty of other breeds around. Loads in pounds.
Also, there is a law that certain breeds should be muzzled when out in public. It's there for a reason.
I was attacked by 2 pit bulls a couple of years ago, the owner has left his gate open. They'd be wandering up and down the road all week. They were regularly out. They were just "playing", I just walked away very slowly with my leg bleeding and several puncture wounds.
Had to get tetanus shot which I got the owner to pay for. I was very lucky I just remained calm. A child would have screamed and god knows what would have happened.
I didn't want the dogs to be put down. Cause they are the **** innocent creature here. And I love dogs. But they are bred to protect, defend, attack. And it takes a very knowledgeable person to handle them.
So, the owners of these breeds need to step up and take responsibility.
If people call out that dogs are not being muzzled that should be regularly then at least this might not have happened.
You can't have it both ways.
You are in the minority and you know that. Anyone that takes on a large strong energetic breed dog should be walking, running, entertaining it for hours each day to meet its needs. Plus training, socializing, medical and other needs are also required. You sound you meet your dogs needs. All you have to do is ask the dog warden or animal rescue what breeds they remove from people the most, and what breeds get surrendered the most ... its large strong breeds. People, in particular tough boys have no idea of the responsibilty, work and effort that comes with owning these breeds. Thats what I am saying.
Remember 15 years ago when every second person in urban Ireland had a Husky ? How many do you see now? Very few, right? Ask the owners, the majority will tell you that they would never get a Husky again due to the work, effort and responsbility, etc.
Just solve the problem with more eugenics. Totally different. Humans really growing and maturing here.
The usual druggie scumbag cnut who'll plead a troubled upbringing and get a slap on the wrist
On the dogs physical attributes I recently came into close contact with one who was only about 8 months old, I never saw 1 up close before, I'm not exaggerating when I say that it's the first time I've ever been afraid of a dog, not that dog particularly but the sheer size and muscles on him was staggering to see up close, I'm 6 foot, fit, big build and well able to handle myself, and I would seriously doubt my ability to handle a mature pit bull, oh and the prick that owns him walks around the village without a muzzle or a lead and the only reason he got him was because he got a hiding off the local drug dealer for 5 grand drug debt, pity too as he's a lovely dog but no way would I have a pit bull as a pet
Well, you said majority of Irish dog owners has no control over their dogs, or whatever your wording was. I was just wondering if you can somehow back it up. And what a surprise, you can't.
I walk a lot and occasionally encounter dogs off their leads. I am naturally nervous of them as I was badly bitten in an unprovoked attack many years ago. To my eternal regret, that particular dog was not put down.
Every single owner I've challenged has come out with the "he/she won't hurt you" crap which really annoys me. Any dog that attacks people deserves a bullet in the head.
Not enough. You have to be very close for an effective shotgun blast, too close really.
A good rifle shot from an experienced marksman from a distance.