He won't have a choice he wasn't giving up on Kiev ,karkhiv or Kherson.
But look how that went and is going despite the claims by a few on here about apocalyptic huge losses not seen since WW1 .
Putin won't be around forever...
The correct Putinbot response to anything related to the Holodomor is "what about the deaths in Russia?"
And to bombing of civilian infrastructure: "German zeppelins bombed Soviet power plants too, and what about USA?"
Uust as an aside the Americans do not have a proper left right political spectrum IMHO. The Republicans at this point are now a far right party while the Democrats are center right certainly from an economic standpoint. If the Democrats were in the Dail they would be to the right of FG and FF economically.
China has now 1.4 billion people. It's not out of the realms that 100k were killed. At the start of the pandemic videos were coming out with piles of phones on the ground. I would not believe anything china says.
He may have no choice in the matter.
No Ukrainian tape on the old kit. Odd white symbol on the left too not seen that in the Ukrainian army. No modern equipment looks like a russian to me.
272 odd days russians are the only ones retreating.
If RU wants to stop any country from joining NATO , all it has to do is to create a bit of a disturbance like it has done in Georgia , Moldova , Ukr, etc. In principal, if a few Ru got together in Ireland and said that the Irish Gov , say, refuses to put The Russian. Language on the leaving cert curriculum , he could create a bit of agitation and away we go. So according to NATO rules it would not even consider our application if Irl made one. Simple as.
Because of the above NATO should revise its rules so as to overcome Russias strategy as described above
The only time better then now for Belarus to get away from Russia will be when Putin dies or loses power.
And by now I mean during this war. The longer the war goes on and the weaker Russia gets the harder it would be for Russia to stop them.
I love these delusional rants. The next person on this or another show will be complaining about how bad things are going in Ukraine and some General should shoot himself in the head. 🤡🤡🤡
That is just not how NATO works. There is a framework that applicant countries should follow, but ultimately there is absolutely nothing stopping any country from joining NATO - it is a simply up and down vote and unanimity is all that is required.
There is no legal framework that stops NATO from accepting an application from a member that all countries would otherwise support.
If Putin does get bumped off, will his doubles need to be bumped off too? Like Voldemort and his horcruxes.
But they won't accept members who are already in conflict or have foreign invaders on their territory
I think NATO is well aware of Russias hybrid warfare
This is what Sweden and Finland was told
Nations that want to enter NATO must meet five requirements:
1 New members must uphold democracy, which includes tolerating diversity.
2 New members must be in the midst of making progress toward a market economy.
3 The nations' military forces must be under firm, civilian control.
4 The nations must be good neighbors and respect sovereignty outside their borders.
5 The nations must be working toward compatibility with NATO forces
I saw some startled and nervous eyeballs when he said 'Poland'. The scriptwiters must be messing with these idiots.
'Yuri, do you think we can get away with having one of them suggest absorbing all of Eastern Europe, including NATO countries like Poland?'
'That might be going a bit far; would they be stupid enough? Good idea, lets see.'
Russians pushing south west of Bakhmut - today they claim to have taken control of villages either side of Kurdiumivka (Ozarianivka and Zelenopilia)
Attacking the city itself obviously hasnt worked, so next strategy must be to surround it - except they are blocked to the north east at Soledar, so the only route available to them is south side.
If they do take Kurdiumivka, expect them to try advance along the line of the Donbas canal up to somewhere outside Chasiv Yar
Is it also not the case that the applicant country must not be under attack by another nation?
Yes, there is a framework for expanding NATO with these "rules". As Turkey's tomfoolery around the expansion shows though, the only actual requirement to join is that it is geopolitically convenient for the other members.
Probably not, though I suspect it would depend on who the conflict is with. But it is because the existing members won't want to get involved in that conflict, it will not be because they constrained from doing so by the rules but would otherwise consider it.
We are not talking about a body like the EU with its own legal framework and civil service who process new members.
Report's of another big missile strike coming today.
As in no 4 i guess,but at the end its also the decision of all members to vote them in
Yes Turkey and Hungary are using their membership to achieve their own political goals,unfortunately
But there are some «requirements» atleast that needs to met before the voting takes place
I am surprised they havent been sent to Ukraine before,the GLSDB system
It will be a nightmare for russian artillery,ammo depots and command centres
Ah, its them now but I'm sure they'd all do it under certain circumstances.
Who is going to enforce the requirements though? There is no official process and no official judgements or reports made on whether countries fulfil the requirements.
We don't need to get into the weeds of this (and we've done so before on the thread) but the point is more that anyone suggesting that the rules be changed so that countries in conflict can join is largely wasting their time. Its far from clear it is even a rule but ultimately nothing constrains current members from just doing whatever the want in regards to accession.
According to the Russians......
Lol
As far as i can see,there are only 2 countries that opposes the membership of Sweden and Finland,and i couldnt think of any better members to NATO that have no problem passing the requirements.
But i get your point,and there have to be some requirements even if you have to apply for membership.
But NATO wouldnt accept anyone in conflict regardless,because that means NATO will be dragged into the conflict,and NATO is a defence alliance.
well yeah - I literally said it in my post, as well as mine own emphasis on the fact that they claim all this rather than publishing evidence at this time.
You are literally just repeating the point I made in my own post 'lol'
So why post it
Yeah, they are the only two. But Greece blocked North Macedonia for ages, and I'm sure France and Germany would do likewise if they felt the need/desire. Just saying that its very much used as a geopolitical tool by many different members at different times (though messing around with Finnish accession at the moment seems to be going against the entire core principal of NATO).
I more or less agree on the last point. However the point that was made earlier that it is easy to block NATO membership is just not true and NATO doesn't work on the basis of legal loopholes and tricks.
In principal, if a few Ru got together in Ireland and said that the Irish Gov , say, refuses to put The Russian. Language on the leaving cert curriculum , he could create a bit of agitation and away we go. So according to NATO rules it would not even consider our application if Irl made one. Simple as.
No gains despite claim's.
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