NRA have this morning advertised for engineering consultancy to design medium to long term solution to the junction!
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Looks like N25W to M8N will follow the existing flow.
I think this will be an intermediate step to be used.
New alignment for M8S and N25 West to Tunnel traffic to open next Monday night.
Just to note M8 South to Tivoli traffic would also need need to be facilitated.
Drove through this yesterday, that set of traffic lights have now been moved per the diagram
I'm an N40 to M8 North user all week evenings and the volume of traffic that are in the N40 left lane to go N25 East is amazing ( I always suspected this but to see it in real time is shocking).
I cruised in the right lane to go M8 North while the left lane was a car (and lorry) park.
There are still a few N25E users staying in the right lane until the last minute.
And this is the primary reason for all the delays we are seeing.
And yet if you don't let them in you are the p***k
DroneHawk is putting in some shift of late with all these recent lane/new layout openings!
With the upcoming changes it looks like N40 southbound traffic coming from Tivoli will now need to go through 4 sets of lights.
The 3 existing and the new set mentioned in the latest newsletter.
I would think the new set of lights is only for N25 West to tunnel traffic.
Potentially, however the turquoise line in the diagram seems to suggest the new lights will span accross all 4 lanes.
Actually, I think you’re right.
What I would say though is that traffic lights 3 and 4 will be in sequence. A strict box junction will also be required between lights 3 and 4.
There’s an awful lot of complaining of lack of signage online from people who call the N40, “The Link”.
You mean, from people who don't pay attention to signage anyway? Between Mahon Point and the northbound tunnel mouth yesterday I counted at least six signs telling me what lane I needed (including two enormous new gantries). There could have been more: I only noticed the temporary signs because, closer to the tunnel, they were around 100 metres apart.. This was in the dark too, so I don't know how people are struggling in daylight.
So, based on the signs, I put myself into the left lane as early as possible, and then when I got onto the interchange, I used a radical policy of slowing the f_ck down a little so that I wouldn’t blindly drive past my onramp. I think a lot of the complaints are from people who are finding that their old strategy of slamming the foot down to clear the two sets of lights as fast as possible doesn't work when there's a completely new layout to figure out.
Maybe they need another sign at the gore of the M9/N25 split on the interchage itself, but I suspect it wouldn’t be safe, as someone would probably crash into it on the first day...
(coming from the east, there's no need for new signage: current lane sorting is still the same as it was already: Tunnel,Tunnel,Dublin)
"DeR ToO SmALL"
Also, people who routinely break the speed limit are finding the 60kmh and new layouts a real challenge at 100kmh.
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I would be inclined to think a single lane from the N25 Eastbound and a single lane from the M8 southbound etc. with no traffic lights and a bit of temporary jersey wall to keep them separate up to the tunnel entrance would give a better uninterrupted traffic flow to the merge. There would be plenty of time/distance for the two streams to sort themselves out after the tunnel exit.
Traffic lights are required for N25 east traffic to enter the roundabout.
Let me put it another way, N25 westbound, as in heading from the Midleton direction to the N40.
That does make sense, allowing firstly for the traffic coming from Tivoli, that will probably need lights at the existing north side of the roundabout for the north travel N25 and M8 and south bound M8.
I wonder though, will that cause, the muppets of which we know there are lots, swapping lanes inside the actual tunnel, which is forbidden
Thats basically what will happen in the end. But with the set of lights on the N25W slip, which can't be removed until the old road from Little Island is closed, which itself can't be closed until links are built from the new junction down to the N25, you still need the stacking space for 2 lanes of traffic. Then you have a merge.
Similarly for the M8S, you need two lanes of stacking space and you'd then need to merge that traffic to one lane before the tunnel. Not practical.
Once all the lights are removed, then ironically you can go to one lane because one lane freeflow will provide more capacity than two-lanes-into-one.
Looks like a P&R at Dunkettle is still on the cards.
heading n40n to n25e in evening rush hour since the changes.
Must say I’m feeling like a fool for staying in the left lane prior to and in tunnel. The past two days, I’ve tried to go to the second from left of the four lanes on exiting the tunnel. This isn’t possible as the left-most lane is too popular and backs me up. As I wait there, several cars from right hand lane nip in to the lane I’m trying to enter up ahead.
The thing is, the cars nipping ahead of me aren’t even delaying me so no point complaining, beeping etc. it’s a matter of the lights and sheer popularity of the left-most lane determining when I move. Not sure how long my good intentions will hold up, to be honest.
I wonder how much of an effect once Link B opens up in the next week or two.
Probably less stressful, but less ethical, to stay in the right hand lane and go all the way around the roundabout.
Hadn't realised they were going to make Link B free flow soon?
Newsletter states it will ultimately provide free flow but in the short term it will be gated by the new lights to allow traffic coming from M8S and Little Island access town.
I must admit that I am surprised by this. Who would this cater for, that wouldn't use Little Island?
I wonder where the land will be for the P+R.
That would be known in the IT world as a workaround, with nothing unethical about it.
Commuters coming from M9 or N40, wishing to go to the City.
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