Are we looking at E10 being the new standard for petrol ?
Personally I'd prefer E0.
Currently our E5 is more like E3, due to the double counting, where resused bio on it's second life, has a double value.
The link above (official government) says:
Increasing the bioethanol blend in petrol to 10% will bring Ireland in line with most European countries and most of the UK , where E10 petrol is already the standard petrol that is sold.
In my opinion this is purely a lie, as only minority of European countries have E10 available, and vast majority of those which do, also have E5 widely available everywhere same as E10.
I thought it was already here! It’s only a problem for classics and a small number of cars around the 20 year old mark, no?
Also attracts water, so you don't want to have a car or bike parked up for too long.
Gives less mpg.
Has a shelf life of 3 months.
And isn't suitable for lots of small equipment, such as lawnmowers, chainsaws, generators, and other garden equipment.
I thought so too, I had checked the UK list before thinking it was coming here at the same time. Main numbers on the road here for problems would be VW Group 1.4, 1.6 and 2 litre engines up to 2004 and it's not all of them in that range.
I think it's only a matter of time before petrol becomes E10.
A lot of newly built/refurbished stations seen to have 4 guns per pump.
Maxol, circle k, Inver, AppleGreen come to mind.
I'm guessing that regular will be 95E10, and that they'll make their plus fuel 95E5.
And Inver doesn't offer the option of a premium fuel, so those extra guns are currently useless
Coming here from 1st April...
Jaysus OP. Thought you were talking about €10 a litre.
Nearly gave me a Connery.
Will it be available same as E5, or will it completely replace E5?
In my expierience fuel consumption rise is much higher than 1-2% as mentioned in the article.
My suzuki managed to increase from about 6.5 litres/100km to 7.5 l/100km when I put E10 in it. That's an increase of nearly 15%.
It will replace E5 completely so yes it's going to be like the price rising as mpg will drop.
It's not beyond the realm of possibility that the likes of Maxol, Circle K & appleGreen would keep their plus/extra fuel at E5
Time will tell
The concern I have is the fact I've 3 classic cars. They don't really like E10 so could possibly mean significantly more maintenance and parts needed. The conspiracy theorist in me would say, is this a sneaky way to force more "older" cars off the road...
is there any additives that can be added to the fuel to make it less harmful to classics ?
Current E5 is actually E3.
So E10 might only actually be E5
Other countries, E5=E5, E10=E10 ,B7=B7.
Yep. From my initial investigation, It's about €10 - €15 to treat 50 litres though! I need to spend some time and see what is available. I've a recently built highly tuned engine in one of them, so I've no idea how it's going to react to E10 either!
From the UK... But none the less
So it's another three card trick played by the Greens??
Sold as better for the environment but in reality using more fuel and raising more tax.
There's studies that say the emissions in the production of ethanol are worse than the emissions if it was straight petrol you were burning. It reminds me a lot of the banning of peat harvesting in Ireland yet no issue to import it by ship from Eastern Europe as it appears off the books.
The research, which was funded in part by the National Wildlife Federation and U.S. Department of Energy, found that ethanol is likely at least 24% more carbon-intensive than gasoline due to emissions resulting from land use changes to grow corn, along with processing and combustion.
Bad news for my car.
Same argument with HVO , less co2, but the same nox and particulates,. And the impact of it's production.
We're being sold a pup
Anything that been made with food stock is bad for the environment, especially when so many are starving. Until it's made from waste from agriculture or the food processing industry it's all a con.
Yes, I've used the one below in my Skyline when storing it over the winter.
Although I may have to start using it during normal use depending on how it goes.
People forget that high performance cars can be tuned to run on E85 without any change to the engine, apart from maybe refreshing the fuel system and fuel lines. I don't think E10 is going to cause too many issues for the regular motorist, but for older classic cars I suspect there may be issues with fuel lines rotting and moisture building up in the fuel system. In terms of running performance I don't see why it would cause any issues. An extra 5% ethanol will bump up the octane rating ever so slightly as well.
Is there any good resource for seeing exactly what types of fuels are available at Irish stations? Should every pump have the same options or do some stations have a pump that's only for specific vehicles?
B7 diesel or 95ron E5 petrol.
That's it
If you have a old car you can buy race fuel if you are worried you can even buy leaded race fuel too the last time I checked if your car is really old. It's more expensive obviously but if you were really that worried there are options plus as was said you can treat E10 to remove the ethanol.
Also bad for bikes with plastic fuel tanks.
Tank expands and besides the bolt holes not lining up anymore the decals start bubbling.
This was on a bike I bought.
Price of a new tank 😮
This is one of the reasons they did a u turn on E85, something the gov were incentivising through VRT cuts and excise cuts. They then realised that diesel was way better and that should be incentivised.
Note the same Green Party were part of the coalition back then too.
Would anyone with time on their hands, fancy doing something similar with Irish fuel?
Now would be a good time to run a test and do another later in the year.
Not long now.
NOTE TO MOD. WHY THE HELL WAS MY TWO POSTS DELETED?
There are no deleted comments in the thread log so I have no idea what your talking about.
