So the balls-up has started since last night which makes Fairview from clontarf to Edges corner a single lane with bollards down the centre.
This will be a permanent feature and works will take 21 months.
If you actually speak to other demographics, they won't mention male cyclists behaviour as reason for not cycling. They'll mention unsafe cycling infrastructure, and dangerous drivers.
He was the most vocally outspoken against improvements to the area. It was nasty of him to try and punish the locals for his own entitled needs, then disappear from the area altogether. Thankfully people such as him weren't listened to. There's other business owners in the area who can't wait for the improvements, even though they know the disruption won't be great in the short term.
He's a cyclist. The one thing we have learned is that "they are never wrong". He used the same comment recently on someone else, it might even have been me.
All this off topic nonsense
You are mistaken.
My partner is afraid to cycle a lot of places, and she can't wait for the new route, as it'll be segregated for much of her journey to work. She currently drives, but I'm trying to get her using the car a lot less.
Just seems strange how none of these deaths have been reported in the public domain, after a Coroners Inquest
Do you seriously think I am going to supply names of dead neighbours and friends to you, I mean, would you please cop onto yourself.
For the record, I believe you. I just think you're rather unfortunate to have lost so many neighbours and friends to road traffic collisions and yet you seem to direct your road safety related-anger towards vulnerable road users but we all deal with grief differently.
Seems like you’re at the centre of some weird Bermuda Triangle of road deaths among your neighbours and friends. For most of us, direct knowledge of any one such death would be very unusual, but you seem to be closely connected to large numbers of such deaths.
I’m not asking you to supply any names, as you well know. I’m just pointing out that it would give your claim some credibility if you could point to some of the press reports that would be inevitable when such deaths are taken through the Inquest process.
Ignore him FFS
Stop feeding the troll
Oh great. The guy who is derailing the other cycling thread has come in here and is now derailing this one too. That's just great.
There is an 'ignore' function available folks, it's very useful.
Everbody -- back on topic and stop the sniping, please.
Re CSO figures are fairly solid. If anything the CSO Census underestimates the number of woman cycling in some parts of Dublin as the figure if for the whole city. If you want to dismiss CSO data, you'll need to do better than "my mate said something unrelated once".
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I live along North Strand and contacted the councillors last week about the total lack of enforecment on the route. Only two vague responses so far which is fairly frustrating.
I assume those bollards are for the new cycle lane that is currently being built along Griffith Avenue from the entrance to Charlemont to the Malahide Road.
You might have noticed that they are currently removing the curbing that juts out into the road in front of the schools, they are doing that to make space for the cycle lane. The plans are up on the DCC website if you are interested.
I believe the bollards are temporary and will be replaced by a concrete kerbing, as has been done on the rest of Griffith Avenue down towards the Swords Road and beyond (which BTW isn't complete yet either).
My understanding is that they put the bollards in first to see how the cycle lane is working, if it requires any adjustments, such as blocking entrances to peoples homes, etc. They are easy to move and change. Once they are satisfied with it, the replace it with the better looking permanent solution of concrete kerbing, planters, etc.
I will say, that while I'm happy they are putting a dedicated cycle lane in, I do think it is only an ok effort, I think they could have done a far better job of it, without too much extra effort.
I cycle on that bike lane regularly, it’s awful. Those concrete bollards are actually quite dangerous and hard to see in the dark evenings with all the leaves that Griffith Ave gets. You still have bus stops and other lanes crossing as well as all the driveways which has not changed for them to be aware of the bike lane.
I’ve had a car door swing open into the lane from a parking space, presumably they didn’t realise there was a lane inside the parked car. The leaves built up to an unsafe level and looks like they can’t easily get in to clear them in place.
A proper segregated bike lane along one whole side of the road was needed similar to the one along the grand canal.
"A proper segregated bike lane along one whole side of the road was needed similar to the one along the grand canal."
Yep, I agree completely. That is why I said it is "only ok".
It is certainly better then what was there before, just a line painted on the ground, which everyone ignored and just parked their car in. However it really wouldn't have been much more difficult to build a proper, wider, two way segregated cycle lane on one side of the road.
"You still have bus stops and other lanes crossing as well as all the driveways which has not changed for them to be aware of the bike lane."
Agreed on the bus stop, the driveways are pretty much unavoidable, even if you had a two way cycle lane, the drive way entrances would still have been necessary unfortunately. Though if you had a two way cycle lane, it might be more obvious and protected.
"The leaves built up to an unsafe level and looks like they can’t easily get in to clear them in place."
I don't know if true, they claim they can clear the leaves with the concrete kerb, but not the bollards. I guess a street cleaner machine can get up over the kerbing.
BTW you should have seen the craziness of what they were initially proposing for in front of the schools, putting the car parking on the inside of the bike lane! At least they changed their mind on that and are now putting the bike lane next to the footpath and the parking on the outside.
Overall I feel like I'd give it a C-, better then the F that was there before, but far from an A it could easily have been. Definitely a missed opportunity.
I know it's a small issue, but I noticed up at Griffith Ave. extension, that the kerbing on one side of the road is rounded, and the other side is squared.
Would have been nice to have a bit of consistency there.
Enforcement on what?
(Apols, I missed the first 1400 posts)
The canal isnt a useful comparison as you cant replicate a canal. Griffith Avenue has junctions every 200 yards, a canal doesnt have that.
I'm assuming there would have been a problem with residents if all of the bike lane was on one side, if cars are trying to exit their house across two lanes of bike lane rather than just one - ditto vis a vis cars exiting side roads.
The fact is that in the entire city I dont think we have any example of a two way bike lane on a residential street that has houses and buildings on it. Where they exist its the likes of the Alfie Byrne Road or the canal.
Is the one out in Dun Laoghaire two way on a residential street? not sure.
The cycle path in Dun Laoghaire would be an example of it, right? Although motor traffic restricted to a single direction.
The grand canal cycle route has very frequent bridge crossings
That's one of the main reasons I don't use it myself. Too many stops for lights at those bridges/roads. And congestion a busy times.
Actually it doesnt, compared to a regular road.
The Census shows that you’re a wrong about the gender balance of cyclists as you are about everything else.
Whatever,as I said i see very few women cycling, actually counted as the bus I was on passed cyclists going into into the city yesterday, maybe one woman for every ten men.
Some of the cyclists were food deliverers and they were all male.
Lots of people on scooters and they were predominately female, there were actually more people on scooters than cycling,its a lot less effort I suppose.
What do statistics mean anyway, if ten women cycle and it increases by two thats a twenty per cent increase,sounds like a huge improvement but its still a tiny number.
What do statistics mean anyway
That you put more stock in personal anecdotes rather than statistical evidence allows for everyone to dismiss you as a crank and a troll
If you want to be taken seriously, do better.
Have you ever heard of confirmation bias?
Anger over an extra 100m walk to a bus stop. If 100m is that challenging then it's a taxi you need not a bus.
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