a poor innocent victim of who ?
How about fact they operate out of same premises as they did in 1920🤔
that's the basis for your argument, is it ? a postal address ?
it seems ye are happy to steal the history of one group but less keen to accept responsibility for others groups
Ah yes,unable to counter factual info,resort to dogma and silly speak
Looks to me anyway,same people,operating out of same address,would make it same organisation,quite why your unable to grasp it (or why it's particularly important to yous that people are forced to disbelieve what they see with their own eyes),is beyond me anyway🤷
And the real irony is the 'new IRA' would think 'Provo Praising' @[Deleted User] is a traitor to the cause and has a collaborators mindset.They would also see @ontheroad as complicit in supporting the 'Orange State'/ And the 'New IRA/Saoradh see themselves as the real torch bearers of the men of 1916.
Michelle O'Neill and Gerry Kelly were targeted by the New IRA
Michelle spoke about the 'New IRA' having no mandate or strategy - which seems strangely similar to what used to be said about the Provo's. Before the Provos put away their guns so they could get 'a mandate'. And changed 'strategy'.
Someone has quite evidently never attended an saoradh commeration or a political discussion🙂
Tell me,how many saoradh members do yous know??
That would give such an insight into their mindset,looks to me, like someone's blowing smoke up people's hole here🤣
17 January 1970 what happened ?
you ve long been denying facts blazz , this is nothing new to you
🤷
Tell me🤔,this should be interesting
Seems like a typical avoidance post to me - how many soaradh members do I know seriously? How many is there?
Enlighten me as to the difference between 1970's - 1990's provos's/SF v New IRA/Saoradh. After all, you are the fella who claimed there was 'no difference' between Ferris and Casement.
Can you tell me the difference between n 1970's - 1990's provos's/SF v New IRA/Saoradh? Because by your logic there is none. But Michelle O'N and Gerry Kelly seem to think there are major differences?
So are all the republican families all the one by your previous logic? Or are now avoiding the fact that are some in your Republican family - so called 'Good Republican's' who would view you as a traitor.
You evidently don't know any members so,but are arrogant enough to feel you can represent their views,nonetheless....gotta love the internet really😅
I don't think theres any major difference,still seeking same aims and objectives
Only thing,is there now the demographic to clearly achieve reunification....one could argue,they are more justified as the British are dragging their feet on a long overdue border poll......looks to me, democracy is being blocked anyway,and Irish government is weak as fcuk not representing country or constitution properly
and you claiming to know what your talking about ,
just another OGC now arent they blazz
Interesting developments today in the Hutch case. I see even Mary Lou got a mention.
Hmm....I'm trying to ascertain the depth of knowledge of our would be historian,as have some little known info,which could expand his/her knowledge
But since yous brought it up,and are evidently unable to factually underscore your point,you have now resorted to hurling abuse🙈.....iirc we spoke about your potential interactions with paintings before🙂
You'd be hoping this farce would lead to the dismantling of the SCC....
gaurds losing info,magically finding it,then bugging cars and using evidence from region they admit to not having jurisdiction over
Ireland gonna be very embarrassed,if/when this ends up Infront of a European court of justice
what the fudge are you on about ? painting ?
abuse ? coz sf isnt involved in crime ? another lie that is exposed here every week or so
google is your friend blazz ,
Hmmm…
I can see from the above,you have vacated your position as expert and/or historian and have simply begun to talk in increasingly illogical rethoric-driven riddles,
as I was quite intrigued about the prospects of your history lesson/discussion in relation to Jan 17 1970,you were asking about🤷....but I've decided to withhold the rare known info from future discussion,due to the abusive turn your posts have taken😢
having access to google and functional fingers isnt expert status blazz 🙄 fact is sf is a group that was formed in 1970 and has since transformed into an organized crime group involved in fraud smuggling taxing drug dealers, selling arms and skills to other crime gangs amoung other activities. those who question or stand up to them are threatened, killed or otherwise intimidated. the connections with ongoing terrorist activities are still to be fully explored
theres nothing rare about propaganda and lies
Well spotted blackwhite.
https://mepwatch.eu/9/vote.html?v=150459&eugroup=GUE%2FNGL%7CEPP&country=ie
At least Daly and Wallace have the balls to vote their views and articulate why they do so. SF doing what they do best - hurling from the ditch
What are you on about? And what has that got to do with anything I asked you a simple question explain the difference to me between Provo's IRA 1970's -1990's v Soaradh/New IRA. Because you said there is no difference between Ferris and Casement.
So either
1) you don't any differences
OR
2) You are afraid to admit there is any difference
All these odd non-sequiturs and hysterics about arrogance and so on, seem to nothing more than a distraction tactic to get out answering a question.
I could say - 'How could you say Casement and Ferris are the same?' - when there is no way you could possibly have 'known' Casement. But that would be a nonsense argument. Can you see how silly that is?
My question about the difference between Provo/IRA v New IRA/Saoradh is a simple one - you either know the answer as an avid Republican, or don't. Maybe you are just a 'barstool republican' when all is said and done?
Riddle me this,if they a new organisation,how is it they same people operating out of same premises as the 1920s
Looks to me,there's only propaganising here 🙂
Deary me,looks like someone didn't read the reply....and has embarked upon another rant on poor foundation,it just makes your posts appear ill-informed tbh😢
I did however qualify it,by saying the threshold for reunifcation has been passed,if you regard a qualification as a non-sequiter,I suspect you don't know what a non-sequiter is🙈
Except mild difference being,I didn't proport to represent either Ferris or casement view/opinions on any matter🙂
whereas you appear to have appointed yourself a spokesman of sorts, for saoradh,and issued /speculated threats on their behalf against fellow posters,for the crime of perceiving to disagree with yous
I hope that Saoradh is watching this thread -
True 'good Republican's' who will be be dismayed at supporters of SF the party of -
"Capitulation and assimilation into the British imperialist structures, their abandonment of principle and ideology, not forgetting their embrace of capitalism, is well documented and a matter of public record.'
“Sinn Fein have failed to realise their objectives over a hundred and ten year period, not just twenty five years."
“We continue to witness the unparalleled treachery of Sinn Fein. Never before in the history of the revolutionary republican struggle against imperialism have people attempted to continue to use the name of revolutionary republicanism while they implement British imperialist rule in Ireland.”
Yay...more self appointed spokesperson,without ever knowing any members of saoradh
Have to love arrogance of it all really👏....thread needs more saoradh input 😎
The history of saoradh,and it's foundation is v.interesting....but if we had a thread,you'd have just some melt along screaming terrorist until they derail it,and get it shut down😢
Where am I a self appointed spokesperson - I merely quoted Saoradh directly they view SF as traitors to Republicanism.
Explain the difference to me between Provo's IRA 1970's -1990's v Soaradh/New IRA simple question, not only do you support a quisling party who aids an Orange State - you can't answer a simple question on Republicanism.
I answered your Ferris and Casement question. You on the other hand have answered nothing. Now the fact you can't/won't answer speaks volumes. And readers of this thread will know why.
Again,I suspect your trolling now,as I've answered now 3 times:
🙂.....indeed since the pira don't exist anymore,there is no need to comparison as the new IRA have taken over the mantle,
Some self appointed spokesperson issuing/speculating threats against other posters....quite why your allowed to do so is beyond me
You have not answered me once the simple question what is the difference between SF Provos 1970's - 1990's and Saoradh/New IRA?
So far you have ranted about arrogance and ranting bout how I (possibly) don't know anyone in Saoradh, and I quoted Soaradh directly from the Derry Journal they view SF as quislings/traitor's to the Republican cause.
So ask again explain it to me? Otherwise you seem just like one of those who puts the 'pub' in Republic. All hot air.
How can you expect someone,who deosnt view any major difference between em,to answer this??
Your line of questioning,with knowledge of above, is entirely irrational 🤷 (and amusing to watch this level of illogical corner painting,from a presumed adult)
So you are finally saying there is no 'major' difference between Provos 1970-1990's and Soaradh/New IRA?
So what are the minor differences?
And why, if there is only minor differences do Saoradh view SF as traitors?
like the same people who are still gleefully terrorizing in the north were previously members of sfira ? is that what you mean?
the truth is propaganda now ?
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