Simple yes no poll. Hoping this poll ends pointless bickering on other threads
Who are "they"?
About as democratic as an angry mob with some spouting racism.
The gubberment and the housing trusts. They can put them in the north city central areas more easily and on larger roads such as the North circular, Whitworth road, Gardiner st, Dorset st, out to East Wall, or mixed use industrial/office areas with less cohesive residential associations. Just something I have observed. No signs outside but you will see groups of ISP/asylum seekers/emergency accomodation /Roma going in and out and hanging out on doorsteps in the evenings eith entire buildings occupied (usually period buildings ex tenements or bedsits). Now moving towards ex office and warehouse space I guess.
Notice they usually try to go in quietly, in this case the DP was rumbled early on and now doing a pathetic 'awareness campaign' of distributing leaflets.
The newly refurbished Meta building (ex bankcentre) here in Ballsbridge is going to be empty with all the layoffs + work from home.
I might aswell set up a company and sublet a couple of floors of Zuckerberg and apply for one of these juicy state contracts. If you can't beat them join them I guess.
Someone is making a fortune from it all.
Were locals protesting outside your residence in Asia?
If these people have been fingerprinted and their identity has shown up on EU database, why are they still here? Per the Dublin regulations on asylum claims, they should be deported back to their first port of entry within the EU.
presumably he immigrated legally to whatever asian country he lived/lives in?
Are the locals happy to have him though? Maybe he is stealing their jobs? I find it interesting that emigrants would have such an interest in immigration here. There is another one who lived in China for years, back in Ireland now and has a real problem with Ukrainian refugees.
Are the locals in a housing crisis there?
No idea where there is, could be HK which has a very tight housing market. For the locals here looking for help from the government, why should anyway care about helping them if they are against helping others much worse off than they are?
Interested in the response to this. Having lived in Stoneybatter my whole life it's never been a better place to live in than it is now.
I lived there when I was 25 or so 15 years ago and it seemed a lovely place, a mix of blow ins, locals, immigrants. I would imagine they're saying that the place has been taken over by hipsters etc. and they ruined the area.
Are people suggesting only people who grew up in an area should be allowed to live there and have housing provided for them there? I don't think I know anyone in Dublin who managed to purchase (if they wanted to) somewhere to live where they grew up, I didn't anyway. Cities change, they are dynamic, you can't expect a house exactly where you grew up. Or is that what they're suggesting I wonder? Not sure how that would work.
All the people screaming racist at people with valid concerns are as bad as a handful or racists who turn up screaming racist comments.
A bunch of idiots on both sides who can't string a sentence together without resorting to insults when asked a question and the majority who are not racists with valid concerns don't get heard.
You have racists who turn up to abuse immigrants which is wrong.
You have extreme left people who turn up to abuse non racists with valid concerns which is wrong.
Neither side can put together a convincing argument and result to insults when someone raises a valid point.
The people insulting and showing aggressive behaviour towards people who raise concerns about their community are as bad as the racists.
Me too. My parents still live there and the area has a great buzz to it
All the people screaming racist at people with valid concerns are as bad as a handful or racists who turn up screaming racist comments
So people calling racists, racists are worst than racists?
Interesting.
I think they're saying hipsters ruined it and priced the locals out and the same shouldn't happen to East Wall. I think that would require a complete overhaul of housing system though if people were only allowed to live in the places they grew up.
... and would of course be ridiculously expensive when people in Foxrock start complaining that their little darlings need help to buy locally!
Of course you can turn offices into residential.
https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2022/1118/1336908-office-homes/
Well in "The Boys", the great philosopher Blue Hawk informs us that "its actually racist to call someone racist"
Do you not have a gaff in Clontarf or somewhere? That's Dublin unless I'm mistaken.
and what if I did? I'm not from Clontarf
Did you write "I don't think I know anyone in Dublin who managed to purchase (if they wanted to) somewhere to live where they grew up, I didn't anyway."
Which implies that you grew up in Dublin and now have a house in Clontarf. Hate to break it to you buddy, but Clontarf is Dublin!
I and many others also grew up in Dublin and were obliged to move well away into the commuter belt regions for affordability.
Also as an aside, I believe you live abroad now? But seem to have very strong views on how we should run things back here. Hmm.
Well, I think you missed the bit "if they wanted to". Perhaps he didn't want to. Seems he was able to afford something better so moved away. Also, I presume he wasn't housed there by the state in subsidised accommodation?
People can see through the whole feigned innocence crap here. Because yeah totally the people who went to that protest and shouted racist things were in fact not racist not a single bit.
If you say racist things eskimo you are by default being racist. And some attendees at the protest did indeed spout racist shite.
Am from Dublin, bought a place in Coolock but that's not where I grew up, if you must know. Temporarily in London now till the new year. I didn't realise that meant I can't have an opinion.
People yesterday were saying East Wall residents are being priced out of the area and it will turn into Stoneybatter. My point was pretty much all of us have been priced out of the areas we grew up in, and made do with other options. But what are the alternatives? Should only people who grew up in an area be allowed to live in that area?
People can see through the whole "racist" and "far right" and "fascist" smears.
So calling someone who is racist, racist, is a smear?
Again interesting.
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As if Roderic O'Gorman the very man who refused to unseal records to mother and baby homes is going to show anything but disdain towards the East Wall representatives today.
He is an absolute snake of a man who will feel put out that his plans have been disrupted.
Far right is becoming the new “boy who cried wolf”- basically anyone that doesn't agree with the regime now is a far right racist. Was the same during covid. It’s become so over used by the left it’s become meaningless
Is everyone you disagree with the left. What if I agreed with the covid rules but hate immigrants in east wall am I left or right?
What if I thought covid lockdowns was government mind control but really like all the immigrants coming into the country and in particular east wall am I right or left?
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