Can you maybe edit this some, because it doesn't make any sense. Kick of a war? Kick ofF a war? What?
It's clown world, But NATO is encroaching. Kick off a war for no reason other than But NATO. Get defeated said country joins NATO Along with 2 others creating a massively extended boarder with NATO.
I think once Russia is completely forced out, then yes increased defenses on the border would be necessary. Also, Ukraine will likely join NATO and this will act as a deterrent to further Russian invasions.
Only peace talks I can see is when head orc is gone. Pretty sure he was around when they signed off on the Nuclear weapons.
Insurers never lose. We'll just end up footing the increases with their "natural disasters" levy.
The only peace possible is when the aggressor is no longer able to attack.
What does that even mean?
Some are suggesting there won’t need to be peace talks. That there is no point as Putin can’t be trusted. That Ukraine can defeat Russia militarily. My point is that that won’t happen even if Ukraine takes back all its territory. There will have to be peace talks.
Once they are pushed out Ukraine can then decide what to put on it's own boarders and how to deal with the bear.
But if you take that to it’s logical conclusion, once we’ve helped Ukraine get back all its territory then we should help them push on to moscow and overthrow Putin as the only way to achieve peace
There will be a peace deal. Whether that deal happens when Russia is pushed out of all of Ukraine or whether Russia end up keeping Crimea or anywhere else is kind if irrelevant to your point. He might invade again, even if he is pushed out this time, or continue to shell Kherson and make eastern Ukraine uninhabitable.
The only thing that will keep him at bay is to militarise the border wherever that is, or whether eastern Ukraine ends up as being some kind of buffer zone.
those that think this ends nice and neatly by pushing the Russian army out of Ukraine, with no need for any kind of deal, are deluded.
Yes, this point is lost on a lot of the "peace" guys. It's like trying a negotiate a deal with the head of a criminal or terrorist gang and hoping he might stick to his word. The 'let's have peace' fans are talking as if Russia is a perfectly normal country with a normal leader.
Oil depot caught fire in Makiivka overnight
I missed the fact that you referred to the Greyzone. That is simply irrefutable proof that you are a gullible fool.
They have consistently been proven to be liars, to quote them shows you are either highly susceptible to lies or are yourself a liar.
I like the photos.
At least 1 person killed, several more wounded as result of Russian shelling in Kherson
The thing is, Russia IS our enemy. The sooner everyone realizes it the better - EU, and that includes us, is in a de facto economic war with Russia.
Apparently you are not permitted to tell people they are a re-reg. I got a mod warning for doing so, even though the person admitted in the next post they were a re-reg. Interestingly enough I was also told that re-regging is not forbidden.
You should address your concerns to Putin grumpyperson, because he is the root cause of most if not all of them. We did not have such problems until Putin invaded Ukraine, neither the deaths nor the extent of the World Famine.
Nah, we have you. You're just another persona of the anti anything American/ anti NATO blah blah. That the enemy of my enemy is my friend and it doesn't matter if these friends are from from a disgusting rogue, terrorist state. I think we've heard you many times already on this thread since Feb.
LONDON, Nov 21 (Reuters) - Aircraft leasing firms are suing dozens of insurers for around $6.5 billion in a string of lawsuits over the loss of hundreds of aircraft stuck in Russia since Moscow's invasion of Ukraine.
More than 400 leased planes worth around $10 billion are unable to leave Russia after European Union sanctions forced the termination of their leases.
Lessors argue the aircraft are covered by policies against war or theft, but insurers point out the planes are undamaged and might yet be returned.
Russia the cleptocracy; All your planes are belong to us. I hope the insurers lose.
I was reading a Twitter thread yesterday where a Ukrainian girl spoke about life in Russian occupied Donbas for the last eight years. You can pretty much guess what life is like there - the Russians imported their own citizens and famed "values" to the region i.e. like something out of the Third World but with added authoritarianism and repression.
You are copy pasting from someone who is. That is very clear.
Additionally, I am not your "bud", "friend" or "mate".
Lastly, zero respect in return, as you are posting repeatedly refuted lazy old propaganda.
Yeah they are there protecting the region. They want its resources. It is patently clear they are not there to protect the people of the region - they have murdered them, destroyed their homes in indiscriminate attacks, conscripted them as cannon fodder to be sent to their deaths. In numbers which dwarf in orders of magnitude the deaths in 8 years of conflict prior to that.
I don't think the people of Donbas can take much more of Russian protection, do you?
Russia said they wouldn't give back Kherson either... didn't they officially 'annex' it in a sham vote?
I saw that clip from the Russian talk show last night. They were saying that Ukraine is a Nazi state and needs to be completely destroyed and 'demilitarised', no matter how long it takes (as in their view, it forms an existential threat to the Russian dictatorship).
Or better still, Grumpy go and live in Russia, just show them your posts in boards, and they'll let you straight in. But be warned, the real Russia is very far from the imaginary Russia you have in your mind, and continuously defend while talking negatively about Ukraine and the west. Give it a month or two (or sooner Comrade), and you might be damn glad to return to the capitalist west.
Luckily there is a notary office that can wash all that.
The Horde are like something out of a time machine. Sack, pillage rape, burn...
I think you're missing a few things. Living under the conditions incl. various humiliations would be worse than dead for a lot of people. And I don't say that flippantly.
Then there's the false belief that a ceasefire would lead to less dead. I can see how some see that, but it would only be used for Russia to regroup and come back harder at Ukraine (this has already been mentioned on Czar TV).
So, to preserve life it's best for Ukraine to keep driving back the Russians (this was also reluctantly admitted on Czar TV).
I've read that post twice grumpyperson, but cannot see anything about slaughtering people being hilarious.....can you point it out?
Russians create "notary offices" in order to "legalise" looting
Ukrainska Pravda — Monday, 21 November 2022, 13:54
"The occupiers have completed the formation of "notarial districts" in the temporarily occupied territories. The districts were formed "in accordance with the legislation of the Russian Federation", and the process of registering "notary offices" has already begun.This is how the Russians are trying to legalise the registration and re-registration of property. That is, in fact, looting and robbery of other people's property."
One cognac distillery; check, one warehouse containig domestic white goods; check, 245,000 children of various sexes and ages; check...
I mean, accusing someone of being from a different country does not negate their points. I've never had a rouble in my life etc. I am in no way excusing war crimes rather trying to put some context around the war. It's just silly being here....
You could be right. Russia is in dire straits from a demographic perspective but so too is Ukraine. I don't see Russia falling apart in the next ten years.
A ten year war would likely be devastating for Ukraine and might sufficiently destabilise Russia too as per rand corporation so that it could be split into smaller States. I just think the huge loss of human life is insane when we should be working together on global challenges such as food, poverty, energy and environment. How many people should die and what would it achieve?
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