Im still on a 6700k @ 4.5ghz, beginning to definitely show its age but still working away, I'm on a 4k monitor but changing it down to 1440p quite often now.
just looking on geizhals.eu at 4080 prices, ranging from around €1600 up to over €2000, thats just **** madness tbh, theres no other way of looking at those prices for a xx80 card.
Intersting to see Nvidia have come out and made a statement about the adapter issue, saying it likely relates to people not inserting the adapter fully and that they have only heard from 50 people worldwide who have experienced the melting issue. It seems Reddit has really amplified the issue considering they've sold 160,000 of the 4000 series GPU's to date.
It can take a while for things for filter upwards and what appeared on reddit is unlikely to be the sum total of the issue but yeah, it seems like people are no connecting the cables fully and having them come mostly out. I would say there are probably some defects like plastic in the connector doing the rounds as well(2 posts to reddit did spot at least two of these).
Its also worth pointing out, since both Igors lab and Gamers Nexus both said the same thing, a lot of the 4090 designs made a point of hiding the connector. I just took a quick gander at the cards behind me and with all of them its very visually obvious when the connector is in or not. Including the card in my case at the moment. But looking at some of these cards, the connectors are covered by backplates, have heatsinks right up to them and are not very visible.
Nvidia are covering this by warranty because it's not 'just' user error. When a product is marketed towards uncertified individuals like pretty much everything in the consumer universe then the product has to be safe for that user base. While the affected user base here is small the effect on the hardware and risk is large. They did the right thing in unquestionably covering this in warranty, one of the few right moves they have made marketing wise with the 4k series.
Also massive Kudos to GN and Steve for truly investigating this and applying correct scientific method. Igor's basically guessed and made erroneous statements based on no actual results (when nothing you have fails in the way you expect you can't then advise your clients on how to avoid failure - scientific method = hypothesize, test, verify - Igor had only the first here).
I don't think Nvidia/AIBs were trying to hide failures behind physical structure. But I also don't doubt they saw some failures for the same reason but decided they could just soak the RMAs. Is it a coincidence that Nvidia released a statement basically reiterating what GN found within a day or so of them announcing it when they have pre-testing and a massive engineering team vs. Steve and co. ? AMD didn't choose to avoid 12vHPWR by chance, and that decision had to have been made months ago, they probably saw similar in the equivalent of 'drop-tests'. IMHO Nvidia are unquestionably honouring warranties because it's part of their (un-publicised) expected cost of the 4090.
AMD will eventually move to it, but right now they don't need to limit space on the PCB and they don't need up to 600 watts of power per card.
There are plenty of 4080's in stock across Europe it seems. It's so disappointing that they are priced at €1,600 - €1,800, but by the looks of it Nvidia might find it difficult to shift them at that price.
I wonder will we see a price drop in the coming weeks?
They'd be fools not to price it same as 7900XTX.
Just read this article claiming a 4080 costs around $300 to make, no idea if it's legit or true but if it's even close those margins 🤷♂️
https://www.hardwaretimes.com/nvidia-rtx-4080-allegedly-costs-just-300-to-manufacture-on-tsmcs-5nm-process-node/
When is the 7900XTX set to launch?
Start of December I believe
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/11/amds-next-gen-radeon-rx-7900-xtx-and-7900-xt-launch-december-13-start-at-999/
Depending on reviews it may affect 40x0 prices...
Have any of you guys managed to pickup a 4090? We can't get FE due to brexit and hard to get any AIB card for a reasonable price. I'm still searching.
I still haven't been able to. I've been keeping an eye on CaseKing and they're constantly out of stock.
Seems like the going price new is around 2300 Euros, not sure you stand much chance of getting it under that price in our situation(founders is 1950 on the continent). One of the main reasons EVGA left is because the Founders edition is basically undercutting other vendors, EG, Nvidia sells the GPU chip to them at a markup but gives itself the GPU chip at cost. So when Nvidia "sells" a card, its just a markup on the card but when a partner sells a card its their and NVidia's markup together.
There have been a few Zotac/PNY's appearing on the EU amazons for ~€2,100 ish but haven't been able to grab one. I'm checking a different route at the moment.
I would wait a week and a bit. If the AMD cards are really performance comparative to the 4080, I can't see a world where the nividia cards don't see price "corrections".
It's possible we can still get an FE if you can finagle Scan's support to do the order manually (I've been told that by them before: https://twitter.com/ScanComputers/status/1579864284179202048); although that requires getting one in your basket in the first place.
Haven't been able to test it out yet since they sold out on launch day before I could press the button, and I've missed the three subsequent restocks (Oct 18th 1pm; Oct 31st 9pm; Nov 10th 9am)
Wouldn't you need to have a pre-existing account with them? They don't allow new accounts with an Irish address.
That's assuming they don't ask the same prices, but with the advantage of actually having them available.
Maybe? Wouldn't know, I've had my account with them since 2017.
The 4080 is priced to make the 4090 look better to an extent but more so to not compete with the overstock of 30x0 remaining. Jensen did imply this during a stock holders meeting about a month or so before release. Still that leaves the card in a ridiculous spot. Either they fully expect not to sell as many for now and can eat the cost to push more 4090s and 3090s etc. before a planned big price drop when old stocks are reasonable or they're floundering.
So I got this from Cablemod
Holding out for the 7900 reviews in the hope that triggers a price drop on the 4080 is exactly why it won't. People will have to actually buy AMD cards instead to get nvidia to change tack.
Meanwhile:
Lovely machine, the card support thingy is cool.
Nice job hiding the cables as well , what case is that ? ( which is a pointless question now given that I ordered a case about an hour ago. 4000d Airflow dropped to 80 euros on Amazon this morning )
It's Cooler Master MasterCase H500P Mesh White
It's a bit of an old case at this point
"an old case" Lol... of all the parts in that picture, the case of the one that will age best... :P
NVidia just announced a 5% cut to the MSRP for 4080 & 4090 cards. Won't be the last of the cuts I'd say.
It's all good... if they had any FE stock...
