... or would anyone? My opinion is no one would. There would be plenty of strong words and maybe weapons supplies but that would be it. Thoughts?
Trip.com is a travel agent.
look at FR24 and you’ll see for yourself the time actual differences of aircraft traveling east vs west, published vs actual.
I wouldn't mind silly answers if they actually related to the question I asked. Ah well ....
I flew the route.
Kind of like I know what I’m talking about.
Since we're at Asperger's levels of taking things literally....
Talking about commercial aircraft flying from Russia when discussing a military invasion with submarines, supersonic aircraft, missiles drones and aircraft carriers isn't exactly realistic either is it?
The Russians aren't going to come over on scheduled Aer Lingus and Aeroflot flights.
You obviously know precious little about it because again… it’s particularly rare that trip times of a journey that distance are ever are the same… weather, ATC, route, altitude, tech issues etc.. but look at FR24… get clued in ;)
Even if the premise were likely, you don't seem to think that we would get much/any help despite massive evidence that backs up that we would get significant help from various countries/organisations.
The standpoint you have taken on this doesn't stand up to any scrutiny so again the thread is absolutely pointless for at least two reasons.
The relations that Ireland has with the US and public outcry would warrant a response factoring in Ireland is neutral and that the US are major allies of the UK and the UK will want to defend Ireland if for nothing else for its own strategic interests, the US would absolutely be involved no doubt about it they aren't going to have Russia building military infrastructure on the doorstep of the UK
You’d have to have been there.
There has been very little actual discussion about it on here - what you call massive evidence hasn't been presented. An agreement based off a UN charter and repeated claims that Lisbon was NOT a military commitment during the two referenda we had here to ratify it, and Joe Biden saying he's Irish isn't massive evidence. The way he hung his Afghan allies out to dry and how he handled the Saudis shows that he can't be trusted.
And if Trump gets re elected all bets are off. If we were a NATO member then there are treaties with huge military spending to back it up, it would be a different story. I'm open to having my mind changed, but I'm not seeing it.
That is a plausible scenario for sure.
The evidence is right in front of your face.
93 billion from 40 different countries in direct aid in military and humanitarian areas has been to this point with who knows how many billion in less direct of aid via other organisations.
And this is for a country not in the EU or NATO or indeed with any major strategic use to the UK or the US.
To suggest that were Russia to invade Ireland and every other country to watch it happen does not stand up to any scrutiny.
I've 8 horses, 4 dogs and 2 tractors to cover the South East
..and a bicycle or two surely?
It's a nonsensical discussion considering recent events.
I suspect you had a different agenda about NATO, Neutrality or something. Maybe just ask that directly.
Why aren't we in Nato is clearly the OP's gambit.
Attack on the Republic of Ireland is a de facto attack on the UK. I assume the Irish government of the day will not complain about the UK engaging russins in the Republic regardless of Irish casualties. I assume they will take a pragmatic approach. The UK will already have a plan for this. They are not going to carpet bomb the place. But inevitably there will be Irish deaths that cannot be avoided. The UK is no longer the British Empire and follow the rules of war as best you can. I know what soldiers I would be welcoming if this plays out The lads with the chav accents. "Oi mate Friend or Foe"
Freeloading is a different argument. Asking other people sons and daughters to defend Ireland is a relevant Question.
No. Not in the manner and speed in which they did it, not without international warrants.
This was your thread bucko.
If it went bad, thats on you.
They are relics of my Dad's Army days. Only any user to cycle round the area telling people to put their lights out....
Maybe they want to make a point, land up in Cork or some island and take it over for a couple of weeks. We dont have any decent local defense capability.
After all they occupied our waters and we couldn't do anything.
You can really see the struggles in answering this question here.
So UK would have to attack Russia directly? They would prefer we would but we dont even have jet fighter pilots to give planes to.
Russia already did war exercises in our maritime waters recently.
Why do you think they couldnt do this again off our ports?
They've been playing stupid cat and mouse games with their ships around the world since WW2.
When they withdrew the sister ship of the cruiser that got sank from the Mediterranean recently. They had it sail up near Ireland just to be belligerent. NATO shadowed it as normal.
They are standing by and watching Ukraine. Military aid is all well and good but that assumes you have a large army already able to use it like Ukraine has. And a lot of the aid is a testing ground for modern weapons and a cash cow for the defence industry.
Wow .... Ok. Pretty twisted logic there.
They just want to avoid answering the question.
No it isn't. I think we should stay neutral if at all possible. I literally just want to see what people think would happen in this scenario. Maybe you all have hidden agendas when you ask a question but not everyone does. And why do so many of you not want to give your opinions on the actual question? Bizarre.
Zero point engaging with you if that is your standpoint.......
Is this a thinly veiled "we shouldn't be helping Ukraine because nobody would help us" thread?
It's like a bunch of climate change deniers asking what we should do on a practical level if sea levels rise 50 metres and instead of answering it just bang on about it would never happen so therefore we won't even discuss it.
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