Just now on sky news:
Zelenskyy has 'no doubt' missile that struck Poland 'was not Ukrainian'Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said he has "no doubt" that the missile that caused an explosion in Poland "was not Ukrainian", the Interfax news agency reports.
Sensible post.
And "Orcs", FFS. Who came up with that? This is actual war, not bloody Playstation.
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How would this missile have ended up in Poland, where was it fired from, and how did it make such a 180 turn to head into Poland
I don't see any connection, and none of that seems relevant to letting Ukrainian inspectors have access to the missile crash site. US remote sensing has nothing whatsoever to do with a human looking at missile debris on site.
The actual people fighting the actual war actually. Goes back to Soviet times.
I doubt it Its radar guided missile from what I can read.
Everything you fire into the sky will eventually fall to earth. People don't seem to get that.
If only there were some physical law that could explain such a phenomenon. 😁
Gubarev's missus also apparently missing.
All air defense systems are radar guided , while the actual missle might not have a radar they are guided by a ground based radar
I read she's been detained for irregularities with official funds.
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and how did it make such a 180 turn
That wouldn't be without precedent.
The s300 missiles, when used as air defence are set to self destruct if they miss their target. So if it's tracking a target and the target is already intercepted etc... The missile will blow itself up. Which is why it's strange there's such a large crater in the ground in Poland.
If they are configured to launch in air to ground mode, that self destruct option is disabled so the 100-200kg warhead will detonate upon impact.
This seems to be the main missile fragment that is being used to attribute the missile crash in Poland to a Ukrainian S-300. I have yet to see any photo showing this in context to the crash site, and why the hell is this photo sourced from an Israeli journalist? That alone seems very off.
Now this is said to be from an Orc missile shot down in Ukraine yesterday:
That fragment supposedly belonging to the rocket nozel of a Ukrainian S-300 looks to me not unlike the intact rocket nozel of an Orc missile downed yesterday in Ukraine.
🥊 Wreckage of another missile shot down yesterday was found in a forest area in Kyiv region
The wreckage was found in the north of the region. There were no destructions or injuries as a result of the rocket fall, police said.
K.M 🇺🇦 | NEWS
Now with the Polish president appearing to not wanting to let Ukrainian experts have access to the crash site and phoning Washington as if to say, 'what do I do now?', the whole thing seems to be rather odd.
well being a traitor has its downsides.
IF those quotes are true.
There would be no logical reason for him to double down, particularly when the Polish are pushing the narrative they could have deliberately been goaded into shooting down a Russian missile so close to the border to create this such event. There is zero, absolute no blame being attributed to Ukraine in this.
Either this reaction is being orchestrated in concert or Zelenskyy is getting erroneous intel or he is spot on.
Curiouser and Curiouser.
Who is to say that it was shot down by a polish plane. Why not by an Ukrplane or Ukr fired misslle. Even though there might be a polish planefound nearby could it not be a polish plane that has been there for a few years on the ground when it crash landed having run out of fuel. A thousand reasons can be given for the downing of a Ru military asset
I have seen reports there were remnants of two different types of missile found - but take that with the boatload of salt it ddeserves until the truth comes out.
Either way, if mordor weren't firing their orc missiles at Ukraine, there would be no need for Ukraine to launch self defense missiles.
NATO already know what happened, they had AWACS aircraft up and there's a new NATO/Polish radar not far away that can see 500km.
Anyone know if mick wallace and clare daly were on the list of Irish politicians sanctioned by ruSSia? .................... Asking for a friend like.........
I hope it was fired by Ukraine because otherwise Putin now knows exactly what the NATO crowd will do if he decides to send some missiles into other countries …. SFA.
the swift declaration that it wasn’t Russia by Biden makes me very sceptical TBH.
Zelensky is doubling down on it wasn't a Ukrainan missle or missles
There is definitely more to this,I reckon their has been a deliberate down play of what happened and what exactly hit Poland.
Well if they're not and we need to send an urgent message or delegation in person to Russia, they might find they are the only 2 Irish politicians left that can take on such an important task....on behave of the Irish people they represent, whom I'm sure will give them their "best" wishes and a lovely send off.....
By invading Ukr in case it was EVEN THINKING of about EVEN CONSIDERING joining NATO and the total devastation he has caused multiplied by TEN . He -PUTIN - has given to Ukr and the democratic world at least the VERY REASON why The Ukr should be allowed join NATO at the first opportunity. NATO should review its rules re membership to see if it can be easier for a country to join it.
God only knows what Putin would do or his replacement if Ukr was within weeks of becoming a member of NATO.
Ukr joining NATO or the EU should be off the table in any peace negotiations.
A peace talks condition connected to the above should be that Russia will do nothing to impede Ukr from joining NATO or the EU
I still cannot understand why Ireland is doing nothing about reducing the level of Ru embassy staff staff down to max five ie ambassador, secretary ,cook gateman and a driver or better still downto. Zero. Now is an opportune time since the total Irish government ispersona non grata
Deafintally sniffs of ah look lads was only a field with 2 farmers lets leave it at that with this one
Now im glad they are but something more to it
Interesting that the "Russia is fighting NATO in Ukraine" baloney is coming under the microscope at last on Solovyov's show :
US Secretary of Defense: Fighting in the winter gives Ukraine an advantage over Russia
Heroes.
Yep, send the pair of them and we could also throw in Paul Murphy as well. He was making a complete fool of himself again on the radio yesterday. Give them one way tickets.
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