I did but Russia has to be dealt with and dealt with severely. If they aren't it will fester on for years and will effect their neighbours negatively.
NATO need to send a message here.
Whatever launched the missile should at the very least be destroyed.
unlikely
NATO will now supply Ukraine with F16s
Hey Kermit, what's the plural of missile?
A senior U.S. intelligence official says Russian missiles crossed NATO member-Poland territory, killing 2 people - AP
’Dealt with severely’ in a military sense? Whats to stop Russia massively escalating to full-scale (non-nuclear for now) counter value strikes on Ukraine in response, if you are suggesting a military solution.
when you're throwing 100 of missiles against a civilian population there's bound to be ones that miss and this looks to be what happened here
Russia knew there's a chance this could happen and there's no excuse for it.
I suspect Poland will call on Article 4 of Nato and hopefully it will proceed to something significant
" your sources in the services" ! Was it Laurel or Hardy that told you?
Incompetence
Was watching an interesting video from a Military aviation guy who reckoned F16s wont work for Ukraine, too delicate for the rough conditions on the ground, he reckoned they really needed Gripens instead.
A NATO strategist and expert is saying on Sky News is saying that the West may well feel compelled to respond in some way, 'even' if the missiles landing in Poland are supposedly an accident. He points out that that you can't fire over 100 cruise missiles at civilian targets in a single day (an obvious act of state terrorism) and then start claiming that any missiles landing in other countries is merely collateral damage.
This seems like the most credible explanation?
Maybe. Poland (NATO) will definitely use it as an excuse to increase support/supplies
Won't happen, especially if it turns out it was Russian rockets that had been hit by Ukrainian forces, they will say the missiles were knocked off their flight path and them landing in Poland was accidental.
Not difficult to believe. Russia is firing off alot of stuff in these barrages on Ukraine's cities/infrastructure (100s of missiles and drones). At least what is being reported (in media) is that they are increasingly mix of types with poorer accuracy + the Iranian drones (which are GPS-guided and should be accurate).
Seems quite possible for some of their shítty old Soviet era technology missiles to go off course and cause an incident if they are aiming at something close to Polish border (or for any missiles or drones to be hit and damaged by Ukraine's air defences + then land over the border).
There's no way Russia did this intentionally, and I'd say they are **** themselves right now.
They knew full well even a limited response is going to have a huge impact on their already falling-apart-at-the-seams war.
It doesn't have the capacity to subdue Ukraine. It isn't capable of escalation and if it goes nuclear then Russia gets turned to ash.
They're a terrorist state and have to be dealt with. Expel their military forces from Ukraine.
If you let Russia off with that excuse they'll just continue using it
A Polish reporter is saying it may have been a Russian missile intercepted by Ukrainian forces (maybe sending it off course?). Little information yet but you'd imagine all sorts of behind the scenes diplomacy going on right now.
‼️The Polish Air Force lifted fighters into the air from the airfield in Tomaszów-Lubelski, — Visegrad 24.
Just in case hobgoblin says 'unlikely', one more time.
Given that the missiles were fired at civilian targets and not military ones, that defence would be an incredibly weak one. They're acting like terrorists at the moment.....talk of 'collateral damage' becomes an absurdity when they are trying to terrorise a civilian population.
Agree. Won't be long before that's public if the case.
Poland -"time to trigger article 4 now and discuss article 5 triggering"
Poland
Doesn't look like it is fragments of a missile, or a shot down missile that want onwards. There is a big crater and large farm equipment destroyed.
In response to the stop in oil transfer through the Druzhba pipeline and the missile hitting territory of Poland, @PM_ViktorOrban has convened Hungaries's Defense Council for 8 p.m
Poland are itching for a fight,
This could get very interesting very fast
I can't believe people are being so blasé about Russian missiles hitting Poland and killing Polish people. The fact that the missile landing on Polish soil may have been 'accidental' is irrelevant - the very firing of them at civilian targets inside Ukraine was already a war crime and a terrorist act.
I'm not suggesting there should be a serious escalation or anything btw. It's just that it's hard to see how Poland and NATO can just shrug their shoulders and go "Oh well, never mind" about the incident.
Well at the very least, Poland would be well within their rights in future for their airforce to enter Ukraine airspace and shoot down any Russian missiles that come close to their border. Obviously it would need to be approved by Ukraine (don't want friendly fire)
It would not be an escalation.
Doubt it .
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