Seems hotel hosting Ireland's resident right wing party has descended into violence today with police being called
No but one doesn’t need to have an elected mandate to engage in clear political activism
The PSNi should clamp down and clamp down on this stuff; its the second time in recent months someone in the North was assaulted for their political beliefs.
A councillor from Aontu was assaulted recently because of his views on abortion.
https://www.derryjournal.com/news/crime/aontus-emmet-doyle-says-vicious-assault-due-to-abortion-stance-3839288
They probably booked it under a different name. Or whoever took the booking had no idea who they were.
That allegedly had more to do with tubby Emmett running his mouth and all he got was a tap a child would be embarrassed to cry about.
Why would he be worried about it not selling well with the electorate when he has No electorate?
There doesn't appear to be any independent verification that he "was assaulted because of his political beliefs". Everything in that article that insinuates that that was what happened comes from the councilor himself.
Bit of a one sided report there from Derry. Has anyone been charged with anything?
Who was assaulted for their political beliefs in Lough Erne?
How do you know who gave a hiding to who?
What's being 'in favour' of it have to do with anything? Obviously its not illegal for far right people to associate with each other, and there's no special dispensation for left-wing mobs to enter hotels without permission or a booking etc.
If there's no absolute right to free speech nor is there an absolute right to break up any meeting anywhere because you object to it.
Sounds like another day of extremists killing extremists.
What permission do you need to enter a hotel?
What I got from this post was...
Are you in favour of some kind of safe spaces for far right events now?
Yes.
Where do you think they got the funding to host this kind of event in a very expensive hotel?
I'm ignoring that question and will continue to swerve it.
Correct me if i'm wrong?
Mad how many people support political violence when it is the "other team" on the receiving end.
No, I'm in favour of everywhere being as safe a space as is reasonably possible. And the less intimidation there is of one extreme by the other, the safer things are for everyone.
As to where they get their funding from, I really couldn't give a fiddler's flying f*ck. Just as long the money is not illegally obtained, that's OK. If not, then that's a whole new argument, which I suspect is being used as a distraction.
Who was on the receiving end on this occasion?
Sorry, but maybe my Trump remark was a bit ambiguous. I meant that it would be an absurd over-reaction if anyone saying "Trump is evil" were to be accused of indirect incitement to violence. Of course I believe that Trump is evil (even though I generally abide by the principle that one should love the offender yet detest the offence). So do several tens of millions of Americans, I reckon.
Lol
They are all spooks from the theatre department of MI5 or maybe Garda Special Detective Unit as I have tried to explain. Or do you think they just went up to Enniskillen for the crack?
Who do you think are bankrolling a far-right party with no supporters and no members?
According to posters here, it was the NP "fools"
Jesus wept!. Have you ever heard of the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact of 1939? Nazi Germany and Stalin's Russia were allies in the invasion of Poland and mass-killings of Poles from 1939 to 1941.
I know it's a bit removed from the subject matter of this thread, but such a blatant falsehood should not go un-checked.
Absolutely.
In this free country of ours groups should have the right to gather without being attacked or harassed.
The gardai need to start keeping a file on these thugs who arrived by bus load
I'm not sure where they got the funding but they must have some great donors.
we still dont know who did the attacking.
How about we look for reliable sources of information instead?
Who attacked who?
If posters are cheering on a believed attack against the NP members, then it doesnt matter about reliable sources - the point is people here are cheering on political violence, perceived or real is irrelevant. Though Occams razor suggests the bus full of uninvited guests are more likely to be the instigators.
Who and where is this open bragging happening? Are you sure that these aren’t False Flag brags?
So when you say “terrible habit” you mention one particular case. Was this incident reported to Gardai? What was the Garda response?
Were there any other examples of this terrible habit?
Is it just attacks by extreme left that you’re concerned about?
I’d have thought it would be fairly fundamental to understand who attacked who.
Knowledge of the people involved in the NP would suggest it was they that were the instigators.
The idea that Communists and Fascists were "allies longer than they were enemies" really has to be one of the dumbest things I've read on Boards.ie. But then looking at the poster who offered such an "insight", no one should really be that surprised.
Fascism and Nazism were, literally, born to combat the rise of Communist thinking in Italy and Germany. And if the Ribbentrop/Molotov pact of August 1939 where each side entered into a period of non-aggression is supposed to be a bit of humdinger evidence of being "allies longer than they were enemies", then someone really needs to open a couple of books on the subject, because that was a situation that lasted only until June 1941 and "allies" is really over egging the pudding to a great degree. At best, a period of co-belligerency existed between Germany and Russia and both sides had their own cynical reasons for signing the pact and dividing Poland.
Do you condemn violence against all political parties, even the NP?