Seems hotel hosting Ireland's resident right wing party has descended into violence today with police being called
The parties in that space tend to be vocal and straightforward about their positions. I don’t think anyone is confused about what Paul Murphy and Brid Smith stand for.
You do realise these far-left extremists operate here? And that many/most/all of the scumbags who attacked that conference are actually from this country?
what acts have far left extremists carried out here that justify Garda monitoring?
What is your source for
1) Who attacked who
2) the nationality of those who arrived by bus
Even if the National Party are a pack of d1ckheads, they have the right to have an AGM without being attacked by a bus load of other d1ckheads.
The thing is the ones who fought the fascists, be it in Spain or during WWII, would be seen as fascists by today's standards.
Irrespective of the gibberish being spouted about coded language that Communists are supposed to be using, 88 is actually code for Heil Hitler. Neo-Nazis regularly sport tattoos of it.
Are they though (From south of the border)?
The IRSP ran candidates in the north for the assembly but not for the dail.
The IRSP party headquarters are in Antrim
So I'm just wondering what information you have on the membership to make this claim, that many/most/all are from this country?
I refuse to believe Brit spooks put any serious effort into monitoring far-right elements within the Catholic/nationalist community in NI, as the whole lot of them would probably fit into the minibus that rolled up at that hotel...
Who attacked who?
I don't know but I'm pretty sure the bus load of d1ckheads that pulled up at the AGM weren't there to give them cuddles. They went there looking for trouble. Why else would they go?
Quick question. Do you think the guys on the bus were right to go there to interrupt the AGM?
Not a National Party supporter by the way. Hadn't heard or paid any notice to them until this thread.
I'm sure they were. That doesn't mean they went there to attack them. The National Party have form for attacking those who oppose them.
They may well have gone in the bus to make a legitimate protest. Free speech, right?
You seem to have made a lot of assumptions about who attacked who, based on zero information.
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The badge is not of an 88 though.
I agree nobody should be attacked but is a peaceful protest not a good example of what free speech should look like?
Should the PSNI have protected the national party from hearing dissenting voices to their AGM?
Hey believe what you want.
I refuse to believe that a group of Irish far-right extremists can just wander into a Bermuda Triangle of British intelligence operations without attracting serious scrutiny.
The actual on-record history of MI5/MI6 interference in Ireland is phenomenal in its breadth. Take a look at the sub-headings in the first link:
I wasn’t actually thinking of those two individuals, I can think of people who aren’t elected reps who nevertheless often refer to themselves as “ anti racist “
Fair point about zero evidence for me deciding who attacked who. Doesn't mean I'm wrong though. I've a 50:50 chance of being right.
Michael Martin a few miles down the road from Lough Erne yesterday laying poppies. But these far left low iq people decide it's better to unsuccessfully try break up an ard fheis than protest him. It's quite clear who their masters are but most of them are too stupid to realise it.
Maybe. But 88 is still code for HH. They guy isn't making it up.
Who are you thinking of?
Did the crusties have permission to be on private property for their “peaceful protest”??
The peaceful protest didn't turn out too peaceful though, did it. And to be fair neither of us know who started it yet most on here seem to be blaming the National Party rather than the guys who turned up.
How would the PSNI know that a bus load of protesters would be there?
Well it's ambiguous. People seem to be making up their own minds based on knowledge of the party. Maybe it isn't. I would have my own opinion on it but happy to give them benefit of doubt...
It’s not really ambiguous if you do a screed of
research. It’s a badge of the NPs youth branch.
What permission do you need to visit a hotel?
Who blamed the NP for violence?
None, they weren’t there to visit a hotel though were they?
Section 7 of the Public Processions (Northern Ireland) Act 1998 requires a person proposing to organise a protest meeting that is related to a public procession to give, where practicable, a minimum of 14 days notice of that proposal to the police on a prescribed form.
Whats with the intentionally aggressive language to describe one group Fandy. Why not use protestors or IRSP or anything else. Shall we call the NP the racists from now on?
For all we know fandy maybe the "crusties" were invited by the racists to the big racist AGM by the small in stature leader of the national racist party of Ireland.
We really don't know what happened at all do we battlecorp. But you seem to have very quickly decided definitively that one party was the victim and one the aggressor. Which in of itself is interesting.
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