Russia - threadbanned users in OP

The mere fact that Ukraine is attacking them from there, would give them severe headaches, even if the attacks were only intermittent. Keep them on their toes not knowing when the next attack would come.

Weapons industry.

It seems that for some Russians evil is like a day job. I suspect there are very hard times coming to Russia when it collapses. Hard times for China too because they depend economically on the west and if things go pear-shaped in the west China will collapse.

Doesn't exactly fill any deserters with confidence that if they cross over they won't be sent back to Russia to face the music. Either way it's a shitshow. Wagner operating in Kiev or Kiev going back on their word to look after deserters, especially one who offered to actually fight against the Russians.

Anything seems possible now.

Where are the creeps who were secretly enjoying Russian gains ?

A military coup in Russia would instantly bypass the Kremlin.

Not much chance of Nuclear Commands from the ferocious ferret being obeyed either, I would say.

How do you know all the facts?

Maybe this guy had carried out horrific acts on the Ukrainians before he was caught and cried crocodile tears.

We don’t know the truth and probably never will. So let’s stop with accusations against Ukraine which by the way is very coincidental after the liberation of Kherson.

I did think the thread had gone quiet from the usual Ukraine bad Russia good carry on.

But you just admitted we don’t know the facts of this story.

That’s that so.

What can I say?-

It was claimed he was swapped in a prisoner exchange

China is building and releasing new military vehicles from aircraft and ground vehicles, watercraft at an expadential rate , people laughed including expeets when they said they were going to build 10 Arlieigh Burke type destroyers in 10 years,they are now heading to 50 along with 10-20 aircraft carriers ,

But all are untested in real combat,and to move such a big force anywhere you need the transport aircraft and ships,and then you need to protect all of the above from interception and fuelled and supported again not easy in modern conflicts ,

Put 10,000 tanks in a single large area and you can guarantee that in 24 hours you will have a fraction of that left in a war zone,

That amount of armor needs a hell of a lot of crew ,fuel ,ammo, supplies, maintaining they would have such a large footprint anywhere they go they would not be able to effectively protect themselves along with a serious amount of infantry, losses would be staggering compared to what we have seen recently

Regardless of what he did there's the propaganda element which they know all too well. He was put up there as a poster boy defector. Even if he killed a Ukrainian after that then deal with him internally. Handing him back to Wagner to make their own propaganda piece is I'll advised. If he was abducted the look is even worse. I've backed Ukraine on everything since day one of the war but this is an own goal any way you spin it.

ah here I’m not making out anyones a Putin bot. Just highlighting the typical Russian tactics of the whole incident.

If the quality of the build of those ships is anything like their skyscrapers, I'd take my chances in the water