I usually travel direct OSL -> DUB with SAS*, but pretty often SAS will have mostly served this route via connections at ARN & CPH.
Having another option to transfer at BGO seems good. BGO itself is a small and well run place, and connecting there feels more direct (Instead of backtracking to ARN or detouring south to CPH)
*(SAS often code share with Wideroe. Wideroe was once in the SAS Group)
It's disappointing to see it this.
Delays with the A321LR gazumped EI with first mover advantage at YUL which is a AC route now, and now delays with the A321XLR look looking costing it MSP as well.
Maybe I'm wrong but I thought the big driver of MSP was the Meditronics corporate account filling up the front of the aircraft....I suppose that will be what Delta has an eye on next.
Looks like Norse, maybe Jetblue and the established American airlines are going to eat into a large amount of the growth aer lingus planned... they are too conservative...
The DUB to BGO flights arrive at 21:45 so they won't be much use for connections in that direction.
Hmm, barely even enough time to make it downtown for the night train to Oslo (which I recommend. Great nights sleep there). I guess mostly good for OSL -> DUB then.
Ryanair are launching ARN in March, 3 weekly. That should cause SAS's prices to drop.
Burgas too - 4 weekly. EI and TUI currently fly to BOJ in the summer.
Or cause SAS to drop frequencies or the entire route.
I doubt that. Ryanair is only 3 p/w. CPH has three airlines serving it, OSL has two so I'm sure ARN easily has enough demand for two airlines.
Plus SAS would sell a lot of through connections to its regional network
Either way, SAS's pricing will have to come down to compete and that can only be a good thing.
Isn't that what was said about Norwegian - where are they now?
They went back to what made them money and it has worked out for them.
Plus they are expanding at a steady rate on the short haul route.
SAS can only look on in envy at how well Norwegian have come through the pandemic.
You make it sound like the "went" was voluntary there!
Low cost longhaul doesn't work. Norse will fail too.
Ex-Ryanair CMO Kenny Jacobs named chief executive of DAA
I wonder will this be to Ryanair's advantage....
I think Aer Lingus have proven low cost long haul works 😉
PLAY seem to be doing ok? Although they have a nice mix of transit (long haul) and P2P (Canaries etc)
Hard to qualify exactly what the boundary is between short haul and long haul, but I'd argue PLAY isn't really doing that. Their longest route is KEF-BWI, which is 4450km. For purposes of comparison, Ryanair operate TFS-WMI which is only about 200km shorter.
Yes they’re not really long haul routes but I’d imagine 60-80% of pax on KEF-BWI originate in Europe which is another 2000+km. So it’s low cost TATL flying that they seem to be doing ok at (for now), where others have failed.
Wow were "doing OK" doing the exact same thing. They went pop months before COVID.
I think WOWs mistake was expanding way too fast and adding A330s, (they wanted to fly to India). PLAY look like they’re growing steadily with 4 aircraft now and they said they’ll stick to A320 family. Time will tell with PLAY, they seem better managed than WOW
Play's currentl fleet is five A320N and three A321Ns.
They haven't even been flying for 18 months yet. Jury very much still out.
PLAY are making it work via an accident of geography thanks to Iceland, marrying two medium haul routes to a hub where the distance works. I don't think that model works with long haul widebody given the utilization - indeed the evidence points to this with Norwegian & WOWs collapse off the back of introducing the A330 and other insane network planning like adding the Asia routes. I would assume the unit economics also only work if you have people purchase the add ons, I see BWI-DUB for < $325 all the way thru April and there's no way they're making anything worth taking about off the base fare.
I wonder is this a precursor to reintroducing a regular scheduled service?
Norse to fly Dublin to Boston and JFK from next summer with 787-9s. No start date or frequency mentioned.
Good luck to them if true, there’s probably room for additional summer capacity on those routes but not sure Norse are the best suited to provide it considering the competition and what they’re brining to the table.
JetBlue on the other hand would certainly be an interesting addition on these routes.
Norse's premium product is interesting to me. If the price is right, I'll use it.
WestJet have removed DUB YYZ from sale as well. Credit SeanM1997 on Twitter.
I believe they're stopping all YYZ longhaul.
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