Methinks once some of those boats cross they won't be coming back. The troops left behind will be dealing with an ever shrinking supply of boats.
Id say they will bomb them to oblivion until they are mostly dead or gone across the river
Why were they so slow to leave Kherson???
Russia should be happy they are not facing NATO instead,Ukraine would be a walk in the psrk in comparison
https://twitter.com/francis_scarr/status/1590776498298195968?s=20&t=WxAlaSQktZ6Rc-olGB13bw
The Russians would want to be pretty dumb to blow that dam at this point given that it will flood the eastern bank worse than the western bank and thereby hinder their own retreat.
It would also cut off their own water supply to the Crimea as the canal that supplies it needs the water above a certain level, which that dam ensures.
Destroying that dam serves neither side any good, but at this moment, it would be worse for the Russians if it were to go
Trump is a retard who never had an original thought in his life. He was of course plagiarising Obama.
Obama tells EU to do more to cut reliance on Russian gas
U.S. President Barack Obama told the European Union on Wednesday it cannot rely on the United States alone to reduce its dependency on Russian energy, as relations with Moscow chill over its seizure of Crimea from Ukraine.
They have already stepped up efforts to reduce reliance on Russia but German Chancellor Angela Merkel said she supported asking Obama to relax restrictions on exports of U.S. gas.
That was in 2014. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-eu-summit-idUSBREA2P0W220140326
I wonder how many will eventually be actually trapped. A few months ago when Izium was being encircled there was talk of thousands being trapped in the enclave but I think most of them escaped in the end.
A bit different this time having no overland escape route and relying instead on a Dunkirk-style evacuation. I wonder what would be the Ukrainian strategy for this? Target the boats and try to take as many prisoners as possible at the risk of 20,000 putting up some resistance? Or pound the evacuation points for a bit to soften the remaining soldiers. A bit of a logistical nightmare to take that many prisoners in one go all the same.
Reports of a Russian race to the harbour to get across by Bilozerka.
That is one of the few crossing points over the river. It seems highly, highly unlikely that the Russians are going to be targeting the crossing they are attempting to escape over.
they are in red on the map, usually means Russian
We could be close to seeing the daily Russian body count breach 1k
in Kherson, panic broke out among the Russian military. They abandon their equipment and try to get to the left bank. It is not possible to cross safely. A military disaster is brewing. The Dnieper will not become a freeze line. dimitriev
This all sounds very promising.
Nope. These are Ukrainian strikes. The Russians will not blow the dam and send 20k troops crossing to a watery grave.
Paton was right, as was Churchill in his unflatering description and characterisation of Islam. Paton calling the Russians asiatic and devious fits with the gentic legacy of the worst mass rapist in history, being of course, Ghengis Khan. 8% of all men in the regions he conquered carry a genetic marker denoting them as descendents of this awful, awful POS.
I was watching Euronews earlier and they had an interview with Yulia Paievska, A Ukrainian army medic who was captured in Mariupol and of course tortured. And what she said just gels so well with what Paton said and what many of us on this thread have been feeling and saying about the Orcs.
Russians have no pity'
"I saw Russians erasing a city of half a million people, step-by-step with their airstrikes. It was unthinkable and it really was a continuous shelling of infrastructure, residential quarters and houses," Paievska said.
"And I saw a huge quantity of wounded people -- civilians -- and amongst them children. Many of them had (injured limbs that had) to be amputated. So it was very difficult, extremely heavy. And I saw people dying, so it was very hard."
"It was really inhumane because of the captivity with torture applied and special cells equipped with the equipment for executions to torture people," Paievska recalled.
"So it is very important, and I would like to warn you about the problem the world can face if we don't stop it [the war] together."
"The Russians have no pity. They are merciless. And they want to impose Russia's will on the whole of Europe. That’s what they were telling me while I was in the captivity," she emphasised.
https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2022/11/10/russians-are-inhumane-and-use-torture-famous-mariupol-survivor-says
Boom - Paton revisited.
She said a Russian asked her as he tortured her: "Do you know why we do this to you?"
She replied: "Because you can."
Volunteer medic Yuliia Paievska, known to Ukrainians by the nickname Taira, speaks to the Helsinki Commission.(AP: Mariam Zuhaib)
A seven-year-old boy died in her lap because she had none of the medical gear she needed to treat him, she said.
Torture usually began with their captors forcing the Ukrainian prisoners to remove their clothes, before the Russian forces set to bloodying and tormenting the detainees, she said.
She said some "prisoners [were] in cells screaming for weeks, and then dying from the torture without any medical help".
"Then in this torment of hell, the only things they feel before death is abuse and additional beating,"
Russians are the modern day Nazis.
im sure one or two will find there way onto this thread soon
Even Russian bloggers seem spooked.
Lot of reports on Reddit of a huge number of Russian troops trapped. If true, this could be the breaking point of the Russian army.
11.10.2022
Kherson Oblast, Russia.
Various sources report:
"On the right bank of the Dnieper River, 18,000 to 22,000 Russian Armed Forces troops remain crowded in the crossing area."
Russians trying to escape across the river on motor boats?
It has happened before. At the Battle of Leipzig in 1813, the French were making an orderly withdrawal across the Elster when an engineer NCO lit the demolition fuse much too early and blew the bridge, killing many and trapping over 30,000 men and three Marshals (two of whom were ablke to swim to safety) on the wrong side, and turning the orderly retreat into a major defeat.
Missile strikes reported at Russian military at Kakhovska hydropower plant
i expect to see this dam busted before morning
But Europe doesn't have gas to sell in double amount and price to compensate losses...
Probably the less drastic thing first, sabotaging the turbines.
11.11.2022
Kherson, Russia?
Reported: The Ukrainian Armed Forces entered the city.
/At the same time, it is reported that Russian units are still in the city.
Explosions at hydropower plant in Nova Kakhovka
are they flooding the valley?
It would be hilarious if they destroyed the bridge before all their comrades got across 🤞
Imagine being such a stupe.
Lots of reports that Chornobaivka and the airport near Kherson city has been taken.
Supposedly sounds of gunfire on the outskirts of Kherson city.
This doesn't look like a very orderly withdrawal to me. I think there is a possibility that Ukraine can reach the river before all the Russians cross.
Lots of abandoned equipment would be bad enough for Russia, but even a few hundred captured troops would be disastrous.
Fingers crossed. Next 24 hours are key.
I thought Churchill looked down on everyone who wasn't British?
I'd be no fan of Winston Churchill, but he also had no time for the Russians. In private, he regarded them as a bunch of brutes and savages and it was he who coined the phrase "Iron Curtain".
True, but look at the power OPEC have over the US.
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